Red Hood: Lost Days #6 (Spoilers!!!)
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scans_dailyAKA the final issue of this mini-series and the issue where I was like omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomg
cuntfucius, levy and whitesycamore will be giddy about this.
Four pages.
Whoa! WHOA! WHOA!! Hotter than I expected. Ahem! He wakes up and she's gone. She leaves him with a note and another very important gift, which I was so, so, so glad to see in this.
Oh hey, look! Jason uses gmail. Mary Borsellino will be pleased to know about the dagger in this.
Here's her entry from evenrobins.net on Jason's dagger. Quoting from the entry:
Red Hood’s weapon of choice is a dagger with a waved blade. This edge design has been popular in numerous cultures throughout history, with a variety of connotations attached to the distinctive shape.
In simple, practical terms, a waved blade allows for a longer overall edge distance than would be present in a straight dagger of the same length. Waved blades in longer weapons, such as Flamberge swords, have the added advantage of causing the other weapon in a duel to vibrate, thereby making one’s opponent uncomfortable. This would not be true to any noticeable degree in a weapon such as Red Hood’s knife, however.
The origin of Red Hood’s knife within the Batman comics themselves is most likely the story “The Lazarus Pit!” from issue #243 in 1972. One of the original Ra’s Al Ghul stories by the O’Neil/Adams/Giordano team, this issue saw Batman forced to duel against a man who owed debts to both Ra’s and Batman. Both opponents weilded waved daggers.
As Judd Winick, the writer responsible for the entire Red Hood arc, utilised the Al Ghul family as a significant plot element, it seems likely that this classic storyline was one of the key inspirations behind Red Hood’s dagger.
Just as with the history of waved daggers in the real world, however, the element of pure aesthetic interest must be taken into account. Placing a waved dagger in a panel is more visually interesting and suggests a greater degree of ritual — whether the reader is aware of the legacy of the Keris blade or not — than a simple knife can.
Whatever the reasons may be, Red Hood’s dagger has developed iconography of its own, and now casts a shadow of specific meaning forward over any future appearances of such weapons in future Batman stories.
I'm so sad to see this mini-series end.
cuntfucius, levy and whitesycamore will be giddy about this. Four pages.
Whoa! WHOA! WHOA!! Hotter than I expected. Ahem! He wakes up and she's gone. She leaves him with a note and another very important gift, which I was so, so, so glad to see in this.
Oh hey, look! Jason uses gmail. Mary Borsellino will be pleased to know about the dagger in this.
Here's her entry from evenrobins.net on Jason's dagger. Quoting from the entry:
Red Hood’s weapon of choice is a dagger with a waved blade. This edge design has been popular in numerous cultures throughout history, with a variety of connotations attached to the distinctive shape.
In simple, practical terms, a waved blade allows for a longer overall edge distance than would be present in a straight dagger of the same length. Waved blades in longer weapons, such as Flamberge swords, have the added advantage of causing the other weapon in a duel to vibrate, thereby making one’s opponent uncomfortable. This would not be true to any noticeable degree in a weapon such as Red Hood’s knife, however.
The origin of Red Hood’s knife within the Batman comics themselves is most likely the story “The Lazarus Pit!” from issue #243 in 1972. One of the original Ra’s Al Ghul stories by the O’Neil/Adams/Giordano team, this issue saw Batman forced to duel against a man who owed debts to both Ra’s and Batman. Both opponents weilded waved daggers.
As Judd Winick, the writer responsible for the entire Red Hood arc, utilised the Al Ghul family as a significant plot element, it seems likely that this classic storyline was one of the key inspirations behind Red Hood’s dagger.
Just as with the history of waved daggers in the real world, however, the element of pure aesthetic interest must be taken into account. Placing a waved dagger in a panel is more visually interesting and suggests a greater degree of ritual — whether the reader is aware of the legacy of the Keris blade or not — than a simple knife can.
Whatever the reasons may be, Red Hood’s dagger has developed iconography of its own, and now casts a shadow of specific meaning forward over any future appearances of such weapons in future Batman stories.
I'm so sad to see this mini-series end.
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Date: 2010-11-04 03:53 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2010-11-04 05:02 pm (UTC)Seriously, I feel like a lot of the outrage over this is partly to do with the inversion of gender norms. Talia broke two heteronormative rules, first by having sex with a guy who is lower in status, and then sleeping with one who is younger than her.
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Date: 2010-11-04 06:51 pm (UTC)If we get 300+ comments over something a man does that breaks gender norms, I'll be shocked. But oh wait! It's not that big of a deal if men sleep with someone under their "class status" and much younger than them. I'm pretty sure Ollie's cheating doesn't even get this kind of outrage.
Oh hey, also! Other stuff happened in this issue!! BESIDES SEX. :/
Would you like to talk about that? I think we should.
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Date: 2010-11-04 06:57 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2010-11-04 08:52 pm (UTC)It's weird how I never looked at this situation like that. To me, it seemed to be a situation that is open to abuse on both parts of the party regardless of gender or social class. As someone with a college degree & a healthy paycheck (and is descended from an orphan that was the product of incest back in Mexico...), I'm more afraid of being used by someone with less education & lower income than me than by someone who is on equal level with me. But mostly because I've seen it happen to A LOT of people I know...folks who are from different class levels, so it's not so much rich fearing from the poor, but just in general, someone who's managed to do better for themselves getting used by someone who never bothered to improve themselves..but they're in it for financial reasons, rather than the sex or whatever other reason people get together.
Dunno, this is an interesting discussion that's brought up a lot of things I never thougth about. Good job Scans Daily!
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Date: 2010-11-04 11:19 pm (UTC)There are a lot of class issues right here.
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Date: 2010-11-05 01:47 am (UTC)