Date: 2011-08-25 04:15 am (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
That source wall isn't Kirbyesque enough.

Still, may as well throw him in there, nothing else has worked.

Date: 2011-08-25 06:39 am (UTC)
darkblade: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darkblade
Looks a lot more Lovecraftian than usual too.

Date: 2011-08-25 07:53 am (UTC)
proteus_lives: (Default)
From: [personal profile] proteus_lives
Lovecraft or Kirby?

Damn, that's a tough one.

Date: 2011-08-25 04:16 am (UTC)
jcbaggee: Jesus (Default)
From: [personal profile] jcbaggee
And next we'll learn that the Source Wall's very nature made it immune to the Flashpoint event, and it's the only thing to remain the same after the reboot, including Superboy Prime.

Date: 2011-08-25 05:07 am (UTC)
cainofdreaming: cain's mark (pic#364829)
From: [personal profile] cainofdreaming
How did Zoom affect all these big cosmic and/or supernatural things and beings anyway?

Date: 2011-08-25 05:16 am (UTC)
jcbaggee: Jesus (Default)
From: [personal profile] jcbaggee
So far as we know, he didn't. Hell, he didn't really appear to affect anything on a large scale, all Zoom did was change past events to create a butterfly effect. The game changer is going to be Barry, and how he inevitably has to do something big and drastic to try and fix things, which I'm sure will go horribly wrong.

Date: 2011-08-25 12:22 pm (UTC)
dr_archeville: Doctor Arkeville (Default)
From: [personal profile] dr_archeville
This is something about Flashpoint -- and the character of Professor Zoom (who I generally do like) -- that's been bugging me. Zoom can go back in time, and seems to be able to truly change things... so why has he not gone back and saved his ex-wife's father (and own damaged knee) from the clown he erroneously profiled? Or stop his own serial killer father?

Date: 2011-08-25 03:37 pm (UTC)
jcbaggee: Jesus (Default)
From: [personal profile] jcbaggee
Because this is a different Zoom. This one is Eobard Thawne, the original Prof. Zoom from the future.

Date: 2011-08-25 04:29 pm (UTC)
dr_archeville: Doctor Arkeville (Default)
From: [personal profile] dr_archeville
Ah! I forgot Thawne had come back in BRIGHTEST DAY. Thanks for clearing that up.

Date: 2011-08-25 05:14 am (UTC)
drmcninja: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drmcninja
I will bet you money that that is exactly what happens.

Date: 2011-08-25 07:54 am (UTC)
proteus_lives: (Default)
From: [personal profile] proteus_lives
Dude, you nailed it.

Date: 2011-08-25 04:21 am (UTC)
intertobamf: (batman smile)
From: [personal profile] intertobamf
This was a nonsensical arc. Superboy-Prime appears out of nowhere for poorly explained reasons. (Some "energy" between him and Conner pulls him to New Earth? What?) And then the Titans gang up and beat up Prime. And it now works. What?

Date: 2011-08-25 05:01 am (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
i think it was Krul trying to send off the series in a big way... in enjoyed it.

Date: 2011-08-25 09:13 am (UTC)
intertobamf: (wig cat)
From: [personal profile] intertobamf
I didn't. Because this was badly using a powerhouse character, who should only be pulled out for special events, for a terrible and rushed story.

Date: 2011-08-25 12:15 pm (UTC)
kenn_el: Northstar_Hmm (Default)
From: [personal profile] kenn_el
It was a special event, in that it was the final issue of the Teen Titans. Though they did know they'd be working toward a '100', they probably didn't know for some time that it would be the last.

Date: 2011-08-25 01:44 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
To each his own.

Date: 2011-08-25 07:08 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I thought it was more that the DCU dimension, being the primary dimension in the multiverse, pulled him back.

Date: 2011-08-25 09:15 am (UTC)
intertobamf: (Default)
From: [personal profile] intertobamf
That's still a stupid explanation.

Date: 2011-08-25 09:48 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Wembley Fraggle)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Oh agreed, it's just that given past stories I find the "universal vibrations" thingie a little more kinda-plausible than "I get pulled back because of my weirdo link to an alternate person whose only actual link to me is an assumed codename"

Date: 2011-08-25 04:30 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] paultmd
Has anybody, besides characters created as retcons to explain how permanent a prison the source wall is, actually stayed in the wall? I only know of two characters to be imprisoned there, and they're Cyborg Superman and Darkseid.

Who both stayed there and never came back, of course.

Date: 2011-08-25 07:09 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Yeah, my thought too. "It's not quite Arkham Asylum, but it's not a whole lot better"

Date: 2011-08-25 04:07 pm (UTC)
junipepper: (jumplines)
From: [personal profile] junipepper
I thought the Justice Society sent Gog the Big Ugly God there, in the "Thy Kingdom Come" arc.

Date: 2011-08-25 04:19 pm (UTC)
silverzeo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverzeo
Don't forget Gog's head...

Date: 2011-08-25 04:35 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
I can't get over the hypocrisy of the Titans killing the Conner clones and Brainiac 8 but letting Superboy Prime live (even if it is in the Source Wall).

Date: 2011-08-25 05:08 am (UTC)
tacobob: Mordecai Not Very Impressed (Default)
From: [personal profile] tacobob
I guess the clones probably fall under the 'zombie' rules and they could always put Brainiac's head back on and delete all those pesky 'evil' files. As for Prime, what could do they do to actually kill him?

Date: 2011-08-25 04:20 pm (UTC)
silverzeo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverzeo
You know what would made the clones interesting.... IF THEY WERE REALLY CONNER FROM OTHER TIMES!?!?!

Date: 2011-08-25 04:35 am (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: Charlie Crews vs. Faucet (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
I'm not a New Gods expert, but I thought you only got stuck in the Source Wall if you were brave/foolish enough to try to see what was on the other side.

Date: 2011-08-25 04:44 am (UTC)
pyrotwilight: (Default)
From: [personal profile] pyrotwilight
Well Superman and Darkseid were imprisoned in it in Loeb's Vengeance Arc in Superman/Batman. Most of the folks were trapped there trying to see the other side but I think you can similarly be trapped there if thrown by someone else. Oddly though those who are thrown into the wall are supposed to turn to look like the rest of the wall which Prime hasn't so one has to wonder if he's indeed even trapped.

Date: 2011-08-25 05:42 am (UTC)
sherkahn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sherkahn
It's not instantaneous, and Prime does have some strength left in him to fight against the change.

Date: 2011-08-26 05:03 am (UTC)
gamerguy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] gamerguy
See, now that's what I was trying to remember. I think being stuck on the Wall was a punishment for the sin of arrogance.

Date: 2011-08-25 05:09 am (UTC)
mullon: (Starfire)
From: [personal profile] mullon
Except people have escaped the Source Wall.

Date: 2011-08-25 05:22 am (UTC)
flint_marko: (Black Adam & Isis)
From: [personal profile] flint_marko
They don't want to kill him, so they just sentence him to a fate worse than death?

Though the Titans being able to take out someone who took on the entire GL Corps and two Supermen is ridiculous.

Date: 2011-08-25 06:54 am (UTC)
practicalcat: A picture of a green-eyed black cat with the caption "My fandom takes orders from a cat" (Redemption of Althalus)
From: [personal profile] practicalcat
They don't want to kill him, so they just sentence him to a fate worse than death?

Super heroes do that a LOT. I'm not sure why the public will rise up against them if they kill bad guys, but are totally cool with some of the horrific punishments they hand out sometimes.

Date: 2011-08-25 07:10 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
It's all in the style of the thing I suppose.

Date: 2011-08-25 05:23 pm (UTC)
darkblade: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darkblade
Well the public generally isn't aware of said horrific punishments and when they are they generally aren't in a position to understand the implications.

Date: 2011-08-25 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
lack of corpse. Besides they generally put the people who can (theoretically) be kept in jail in jail so the logic follows that anyone they don't deal with that way must be unable to be kept there.

Date: 2011-08-25 09:20 am (UTC)
intertobamf: (Default)
From: [personal profile] intertobamf
Though the Titans being able to take out someone who took on the entire GL Corps and two Supermen is ridiculous.

Pretty much. Does nobody remember the last time the Titans tried to take him on?

Date: 2011-08-25 08:06 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] silicondream
Can he please die? Just for a while? Just for novelty's sake?

Never has there been a character with such a high bodycount-to-interestingness ratio.

Date: 2011-08-25 11:45 am (UTC)
pallas_athena: (Default)
From: [personal profile] pallas_athena
Motto to this.

Date: 2011-08-25 04:24 pm (UTC)
silverzeo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverzeo
How about a real ending period!?! He ends with his Black Lantern Girlfriend, which begs the question HOW did that ended? And now he is stuck in a wall... a wall.. he was a prisoner on Oa with a red Sun Eater... but pushing him in a wall is to stop him... all the while Alex Luthor, the character who was behind everything in Infinite Crisis, gets a turn around...

Date: 2011-08-25 03:05 pm (UTC)
silverzeo: me in anger mode (RAGE!!!)
From: [personal profile] silverzeo
Really? Roy Harper just "gets over" from loosing his daughter after going through a drug lapse and some insanity, but Superboy Prime a tragic character, isn't even granted a real ending? ... for a 2nd time?

I was hoping for Prime to say, "Because I come from a World where you die and stay dead. YOU experienced losts, but they're nothing but cheap ways to sell you stories. Nearly everyone important in your lives have either came back or were just retcon out of existence. Tell me, Conner, when was the last time you thought of Tana, huh? How about the Imperiux Wars? Me on the other hand? I HAVE lost REAL things. I want my world because it's the right earth. Without it, you wouldn't exist! You were never to be real, just ink and paper being sold for 3 bucks in stores! I am what I am because hack writers and editors butch their jobs. But I am free now, and I am going to do the right thing, and make the real world real again! no matter the cost."

BUT NOOOOO! You had to make him into a homicidal douche boy, with no real depth aside fromt he fact his has a temper tanturm. Never mind it was ALex who made him think like that. GOD I WISH I COULD BURN THESE COMICS! Some send the whole story to Linkara!

WAIT A MINUTE!!!

Date: 2011-08-25 06:36 pm (UTC)
silverzeo: Mildly annoyed mode (CSJ is Trunks!)
From: [personal profile] silverzeo
Why was Superboy Prime even here? If the Superboy Clones and Robot Indigo and NOT Inertia were the creations of the Monk Scientist, why have Prime leave his Earth to fight the Titans (specifically) and just be to seal to a wall? Nice going Krul, you are an evil man just to have Prime go through his whole COuntdown/Infinite Crisis tantrum ALL OVER AGAIN!

Date: 2011-08-25 08:41 pm (UTC)
red_menace: BFF? (Default)
From: [personal profile] red_menace
Soooo... any mention of Black Lantern Laurie? Or where the other Terror Titans are? Or why Sungirl is suddenly from another universe?

Good run, but this closing arc was weak.

Date: 2011-08-25 09:24 pm (UTC)
silverzeo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverzeo
UGH! Weak doesn't BEGIN cover it...

Date: 2011-08-26 05:02 am (UTC)
gamerguy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] gamerguy
Yeah, I'm thinking a lot of the writers found out about the impending reboot the same day the rest of us did. With the lead time on books that doesn't give you a lot of leeway.

Date: 2011-08-27 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] don1138
The Wall held Darkseid until Kal freed him in SM/BM. And then it held Superman until the Supergirl Squad freed him. I'm sure it will hold Super-white-boy's-problems.

But I'm always confused to see super-folk speaking in deep, deep space. Does the Source Wall have an atmosphere or something? Maybe the idea of speaking in a vacuum is incarnate as an as-yet-unrevealed New God, and they are the one behind this miracle. Or maybe it's just… Comics, Everybody!

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