And next we'll learn that the Source Wall's very nature made it immune to the Flashpoint event, and it's the only thing to remain the same after the reboot, including Superboy Prime.
So far as we know, he didn't. Hell, he didn't really appear to affect anything on a large scale, all Zoom did was change past events to create a butterfly effect. The game changer is going to be Barry, and how he inevitably has to do something big and drastic to try and fix things, which I'm sure will go horribly wrong.
This is something about Flashpoint -- and the character of Professor Zoom (who I generally do like) -- that's been bugging me. Zoom can go back in time, and seems to be able to truly change things... so why has he not gone back and saved his ex-wife's father (and own damaged knee) from the clown he erroneously profiled? Or stop his own serial killer father?
This was a nonsensical arc. Superboy-Prime appears out of nowhere for poorly explained reasons. (Some "energy" between him and Conner pulls him to New Earth? What?) And then the Titans gang up and beat up Prime. And it now works. What?
It was a special event, in that it was the final issue of the Teen Titans. Though they did know they'd be working toward a '100', they probably didn't know for some time that it would be the last.
Oh agreed, it's just that given past stories I find the "universal vibrations" thingie a little more kinda-plausible than "I get pulled back because of my weirdo link to an alternate person whose only actual link to me is an assumed codename"
Has anybody, besides characters created as retcons to explain how permanent a prison the source wall is, actually stayed in the wall? I only know of two characters to be imprisoned there, and they're Cyborg Superman and Darkseid.
Who both stayed there and never came back, of course.
I can't get over the hypocrisy of the Titans killing the Conner clones and Brainiac 8 but letting Superboy Prime live (even if it is in the Source Wall).
I guess the clones probably fall under the 'zombie' rules and they could always put Brainiac's head back on and delete all those pesky 'evil' files. As for Prime, what could do they do to actually kill him?
I'm not a New Gods expert, but I thought you only got stuck in the Source Wall if you were brave/foolish enough to try to see what was on the other side.
Well Superman and Darkseid were imprisoned in it in Loeb's Vengeance Arc in Superman/Batman. Most of the folks were trapped there trying to see the other side but I think you can similarly be trapped there if thrown by someone else. Oddly though those who are thrown into the wall are supposed to turn to look like the rest of the wall which Prime hasn't so one has to wonder if he's indeed even trapped.
They don't want to kill him, so they just sentence him to a fate worse than death?
Super heroes do that a LOT. I'm not sure why the public will rise up against them if they kill bad guys, but are totally cool with some of the horrific punishments they hand out sometimes.
Well the public generally isn't aware of said horrific punishments and when they are they generally aren't in a position to understand the implications.
lack of corpse. Besides they generally put the people who can (theoretically) be kept in jail in jail so the logic follows that anyone they don't deal with that way must be unable to be kept there.
How about a real ending period!?! He ends with his Black Lantern Girlfriend, which begs the question HOW did that ended? And now he is stuck in a wall... a wall.. he was a prisoner on Oa with a red Sun Eater... but pushing him in a wall is to stop him... all the while Alex Luthor, the character who was behind everything in Infinite Crisis, gets a turn around...
Really? Roy Harper just "gets over" from loosing his daughter after going through a drug lapse and some insanity, but Superboy Prime a tragic character, isn't even granted a real ending? ... for a 2nd time?
I was hoping for Prime to say, "Because I come from a World where you die and stay dead. YOU experienced losts, but they're nothing but cheap ways to sell you stories. Nearly everyone important in your lives have either came back or were just retcon out of existence. Tell me, Conner, when was the last time you thought of Tana, huh? How about the Imperiux Wars? Me on the other hand? I HAVE lost REAL things. I want my world because it's the right earth. Without it, you wouldn't exist! You were never to be real, just ink and paper being sold for 3 bucks in stores! I am what I am because hack writers and editors butch their jobs. But I am free now, and I am going to do the right thing, and make the real world real again! no matter the cost."
BUT NOOOOO! You had to make him into a homicidal douche boy, with no real depth aside fromt he fact his has a temper tanturm. Never mind it was ALex who made him think like that. GOD I WISH I COULD BURN THESE COMICS! Some send the whole story to Linkara!
Why was Superboy Prime even here? If the Superboy Clones and Robot Indigo and NOT Inertia were the creations of the Monk Scientist, why have Prime leave his Earth to fight the Titans (specifically) and just be to seal to a wall? Nice going Krul, you are an evil man just to have Prime go through his whole COuntdown/Infinite Crisis tantrum ALL OVER AGAIN!
Yeah, I'm thinking a lot of the writers found out about the impending reboot the same day the rest of us did. With the lead time on books that doesn't give you a lot of leeway.
The Wall held Darkseid until Kal freed him in SM/BM. And then it held Superman until the Supergirl Squad freed him. I'm sure it will hold Super-white-boy's-problems.
But I'm always confused to see super-folk speaking in deep, deep space. Does the Source Wall have an atmosphere or something? Maybe the idea of speaking in a vacuum is incarnate as an as-yet-unrevealed New God, and they are the one behind this miracle. Or maybe it's just… Comics, Everybody!
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Date: 2011-08-25 04:15 am (UTC)Still, may as well throw him in there, nothing else has worked.
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Date: 2011-08-25 04:30 am (UTC)Who both stayed there and never came back, of course.
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Date: 2011-08-25 05:22 am (UTC)Though the Titans being able to take out someone who took on the entire GL Corps and two Supermen is ridiculous.
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Date: 2011-08-25 06:54 am (UTC)Super heroes do that a LOT. I'm not sure why the public will rise up against them if they kill bad guys, but are totally cool with some of the horrific punishments they hand out sometimes.
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Date: 2011-08-25 09:20 am (UTC)Pretty much. Does nobody remember the last time the Titans tried to take him on?
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Date: 2011-08-25 08:06 am (UTC)Never has there been a character with such a high bodycount-to-interestingness ratio.
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Date: 2011-08-25 03:05 pm (UTC)I was hoping for Prime to say, "Because I come from a World where you die and stay dead. YOU experienced losts, but they're nothing but cheap ways to sell you stories. Nearly everyone important in your lives have either came back or were just retcon out of existence. Tell me, Conner, when was the last time you thought of Tana, huh? How about the Imperiux Wars? Me on the other hand? I HAVE lost REAL things. I want my world because it's the right earth. Without it, you wouldn't exist! You were never to be real, just ink and paper being sold for 3 bucks in stores! I am what I am because hack writers and editors butch their jobs. But I am free now, and I am going to do the right thing, and make the real world real again! no matter the cost."
BUT NOOOOO! You had to make him into a homicidal douche boy, with no real depth aside fromt he fact his has a temper tanturm. Never mind it was ALex who made him think like that. GOD I WISH I COULD BURN THESE COMICS! Some send the whole story to Linkara!
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Date: 2011-08-25 08:41 pm (UTC)Good run, but this closing arc was weak.
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Date: 2011-08-27 05:12 am (UTC)But I'm always confused to see super-folk speaking in deep, deep space. Does the Source Wall have an atmosphere or something? Maybe the idea of speaking in a vacuum is incarnate as an as-yet-unrevealed New God, and they are the one behind this miracle. Or maybe it's just… Comics, Everybody!