Justice League International #6 And Justice League International #7

[superfangirl1]

Justice League International #6













Justice League International #7

Comments

[randyripoff]

Maybe it's just me, but I've had more than enough of "Oh, the world fears and hates us. They don't like us. Boo Hoo Hoo."

This is the fricking DCU we're talking about. They love and forgive their heroes for their failings. Let's move on and kick some ass.

[glprime]

A-fucking-men.

[jlroberson]

True. Marvel is the place for the misunderstood antiheroes. They do it better. And that's not slighting them, just saying there's a different flavor to Marvel that they're trying to imitate and it isn't working.

And I'm really getting sick of them slowly picking off every last Giffen Leaguer. Except Jurgens' pet Booster, who actually I only ever even tolerated as a second banana to Ted. I refuse to accept Booster Gold as important no matter how much they try to make me.

[shadowpsykie]

i think in this case, it's not the "World" that hates and fears us, it's the "governments" fear and hate them, which has been a distinction here...

The Govenments fear the Supers because they can't control them hence the scene with the chairwoman.

But the People LOVE the JLA. because they are independant of the governments.

Here we have the governments essentially trying to have thier own superhero team they are trying to control (and not working).

meanwhile here, the people fear a government controlled superhero team. seeing them as government cronies.

as to the man here who rips Booster a new one, he just lost his daughter, so he is understandably angry. and he isn't necissarily wrong, superheroes do tend to attract supervillains.

that said, i think ultimately this will lead the team to be independant like the justice league, but work on a global scale free of the UN.

[qalchemist]

They... what? They killed Gavril? Put... what?

I am increasingly convinced the DCnu is actively -trying- to destroy everything their fanbase likes.

[darkknightjrk]

I dunno--I had to jog-up my memory to remember who Gavril was, I seriously don't think the fanbase for the guy is all that big. Not to mention that the inherent idea of the Rocket Reds was to be a group, a legacy. I'd presume that this is to create a new Rocket Red out of it.

[q99]

Well, some of the fanbase likes this stuff... the thing is, they *already* have plenty of books that cater to it.

Why DC doesn't like catering to a variety is more my question.

[atom_punk]

My god. The DCU United Nations agreed to the creation of a team of superheroes held accountable under their supervision, made them go PUBLIC, put the media spotlight on them and they didn't expect them to draw attention from freaking supervillian terrorists?

Then, a terrorist attack happens, the superheroes react as best they can and rescue as many as they could, even when their own are injured and you f*@#ing blame them for it!?

Why was there no conventional security at the doorstep of the freaking United Nations building? Not to mention that this is New York City, any major public gathering like this is likely to be under massive security because of the very fact it is an opportunity for a bombing like this. How could anyone plant an explosive that powerful without police or security noticing? Surely they would sweep the area with bomb-sniffers or a K9 unit? Did no one seriously check the stage for explosives? You could argue a supervillain's powers could do it, but the dialogue mentions "push the button" like a detonator for a conventional explosive.

AAARRGGHHHH!!! So much anti-logic!

[goattoucher]

My wife and I addressed this issue after last week's Walking Dead. It came down to this:

If people don't act stupid, there's no story.

Unless, of course, you're a good writer. Most are not, or, at least, most are so bound to editorial and producer mandates that they are obstructed from writing a good story. A happy JLI enthusiastically supported by the UN is, (to some) as dull as a happily married Spider Man (to some).

I will say this, though, Guy is taking this surprisingly well, which is to say, he is not flying into a berserk rage.

[darkknightjrk]

I don't know, the UN blaming the JLI for the attack is something that I can definitely see such an organization doing in that situation--try to save face by throwing the blame at someone else, a total political move.

[espanolbot]

I don't really think that they were after a convential superteam, as such, they just wanted someone, anyone, with superpowers that could use as a bargining chip or extortion impliment... which is an idea, in concept, that really would have worked better back in the Wildstorm Universe.

I mean, I can see the benefits of the UN having their own team of superpeople to call on when necessary (as both disaster relief and as a means to forcing rogue states into line, stopping pirates, genocide etc.), but the fact that they appear to be bitter that they didn't get the superhumans they'd prefer (higher tier ones like Superman etc.), coupled with the team's suspect reputations cause them to be a lot more heavy handed that they'd expect.

Really their approach would work better if, say, they had Captain Atom and other military heroes on the team (beyond General August In Iron and Rocket Red). But as it is they're trying to make mostly civilian heroes act like soldiers without any training etc., and bizarrely that ended up being a disaster.

The reputations just make them an easier target to deflect blame, which might be the issue more than Chinese!Amanda Waller was suggesting.

[icon_uk]

Yeah, the craptacular security at a UN event was what immediately got me here.

The heroes were NOT in charge of security, the UN was. The UN Security teams failed at THEIR job, the JLI did not fail at theirs..

[lascoden]

I think Gavril might not actually be dead. He got zapped by some alien robot thing, and I think that that may come up.

[icon_uk]

Isn't that pretty much August General in Iron's origin too though?

[beyondthefringe]

But... but... I don't get it.
Given the positioning of the characters as the bomb went off, and the relative power levels, how did Godiva survive with only minor injuries, while those on either side of her sustained worse damage? Did they somehow block the damage with their bodies?
And how did Gavril die (or "die" ) when he was wearing full armor, thus arguably being the best protected of anyone who didn't have a force field or was made of armor?

(thinks way too long and hard about where the bomb must have been placed in order to deliver such damage. Maybe directly under Gavril?)

And why did they feel the need to kill or blow up most of the team, anyway? *cry*

[eyz]

If there's one thing I've learned from blockbusters, is that Russians die easier. I mean, American heroes get show a dozen of times in movies with no problem, Russian bad guys get shot in an arm, leg, anywhere really and they die instantly,no going into shock, or etc,..



-sigh-

[icon_uk]

how did Godiva survive with only minor injuries,

Her hair absorbed the impact?

[sinisterlink]

In the issue when they are trying to find everyone, Batman comes in carrying Godiva and says that she's okay because she was shielded by The General.

[eyz]

NOOOOOO! Not Rocket Red now!!!!! :(

...
In close ups, he does look like Booster Gold...but I still say, he looks more of a Booster BLUE than GOLD now, with this overall design :/

[espanolbot]

Y'know, if you're sneaking around on a rooftop, maybe having a glowing faceplate isn't the best design choice you could have made?

[atom_punk]

"By the way, Lightweaver?"

"Yes?"

"If you're going to try sneaking up on these heroes and killing them, maybe the glowing faceplate isn't such a good idea?"

"But, without the glowing faceplate, how will I see on the dark rooftops?"

"..."

"...."

"You know what? Go ahead. Wear the damn glowing faceplate"

"YAY!"

[zapbiffpow]

Aw, man. I liked Gavril in Generation Lost.

I'd like to trade in any other following comments I might have in exchange for Charlton Heston's "You Blew It Up" quote from Planet of the Apes.

[akodo_rokku]

So when does Booster time travel and fix this?

[atom_punk]

If I were a pessimist (and I am) I'd say in the next reboot

[wizardru]

So let me see if I get this straight:

A comic book team whose leader is a time-traveler with a history of mucking about with the time-stream (and who's very presence has theoretically violated causality) survives a traumatic event involving his teammates which results in most of them being killed, maimed or seriously injured and which he considers himself at least partially responsible?

Yeah, I'm seeing Booster jumping in a time-bubble and changing history in about fifteen minutes after he leaves the hospital.

[quatoria]

This is fucking garbage. I will not insult the creators, but if I was responsible for this, I would feel ashamed. I don't know if it's the new DCU as a whole or just the parts I'm interested in, but at every turn, it seems like they demonstrate a desire to bring back the worst, most indulgent mock-pathos of the 90's back into the modern era. At this point, they've now fucked around with and dragged some of my most loved characters through the mud to the extent that I may genuinely never pick up another DC comic.

Great work, guys. Thanks. By all means, keep blowing them up, and turning them into killers, and making the world hate them, and having them attack their friends, and terrify their family, and lose any semblance of adult relationships so nobody thinks they're 'un-hip'. There's either an appetite for this, or for the hype that has accompanied it. Me, though? I'm done. I've been reading comics since I first learned to read, and for the first time I can remember, I no longer give a damn about a single thing in the DC line. I guess this was the last straw. You broke me, guys. Congratulations.

[quatoria]

Ugh, sorry for venting so emotionally. I'm just so terribly fed up with all this death and misery, and I loved these characters. Why does it have to keep being so damned awful all the time? Misery is not the extent of drama.

[crinos]

And let me guess: Next issue, some threat attacks the very people who forbade them from being a team, and then the JLU swoop in and save them anyways cause that's what heroes do.

My God, a SUNSET is less predictable.

[atom_punk]

-reads comic-

"Hmmm, politicians opposed to superheroes immediately start begging for help when a crisis directly threatens them. Meh. Must be a day ending with Y" :P

-looks out window, sees sun setting-

"My god! That's new!!!!" D: