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My reaction was pretty much the same as Hermes' here,


*Sigh* Another one of the female members of the female Bat Family members has bitten the dust, it appears. Though the question not arises as to whether Dinah, Barbara etc. know what happened to the original Helena, since Fake!Helena has been impersonating her for an unknown amount of time.

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Date: 2012-04-27 01:38 pm (UTC)
korvar: (Default)
From: [personal profile] korvar
What kind of restaurant lets people burn passports at the table?

Date: 2012-04-28 01:41 am (UTC)
lieut_kettch: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lieut_kettch
What kind of person uses matches when the woman sitting across from her can discretely reduce the passport to ashes with a glare?

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Date: 2012-04-27 01:42 pm (UTC)
kraesil: (huntress batglare)
From: [personal profile] kraesil
Now I'm hoping that Helena B turns out to be actually alive.

And aeka gets to say "I was right!" or something like that.

Date: 2012-04-27 04:13 pm (UTC)
cainofdreaming: cain's mark (pic#364829)
From: [personal profile] cainofdreaming
Clearly she's hiding in Africa.

Date: 2012-04-27 04:16 pm (UTC)
aeka: (Huntress [grumpy]:)
From: [personal profile] aeka
And as Alfred said on The Dark Knight movie: "today I don't want to."

Honestly I spent literally all night raging over this that I don't think there are enough words in the world to fully express how sick to my stomach this makes me feel. Overall, my upset can be summed up in three words: insensitive, disrespectful, and downright cruel.

After that, all I can feel is depressed. I couldn't even enjoy the slash from the "I've got something to show you" panel, and even now I don't know how I'll feel after reading the rest of the issue.

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Date: 2012-04-27 09:24 pm (UTC)
skjam: Man in blue suit and fedora, wearing an eyeless mask emblazoned with the scales of justice (Default)
From: [personal profile] skjam
Given the "mafia princess" thing, I choose to believe that Bertinelli's "death" was actually a cover for her going into witness protection. Wayne took over the identity which the feds decided was fine as that meant no one would look too closely at the faked death ("of course it was faked, see, Helena Bertinelli is walking around Gotham alive!") and keep their witness even better protected.

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Date: 2012-04-27 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] blueprintstyles
I say it's a mislead, a few months down earth-1 Helena will resurface and try to take down huntress.

Date: 2012-04-27 01:49 pm (UTC)
zippitgood: two stars merged on metallic blue background (Default)
From: [personal profile] zippitgood
Is this from the upcoming Worlds' Finest release in May?

I don't remember this from the other World's Finest titles I've read.

Date: 2012-04-27 04:22 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
OOOh escape to witch mountain!

Date: 2012-04-27 04:24 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
*sigh* this makes me sad.... i sorta ignored the first line where she says "Alas poor miss bertinelli... she served me well." and went straight to "She was REAL you know... interesting life..."" and felt he was TRYING to be respectful... then reading it again, it just feels like a punch to the face and then a kick to the crotch...

my only hope is that Helena B is somehow still alive (faking her death) and will come back as Earth 1 Huntress

Date: 2012-04-27 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Okay, it's Helena Wayne, they want to make sure that is the approach from now on, I can get that. Burning the passport seems to be a rather mean way of doing it, though.

"Though the question not arises as to whether Dinah, Barbara etc. know what happened to the original Helena, since Fake!Helena has been impersonating her for an unknown amount of time."

Well, Levitz said that the two have been stuck on this Earth for five years, apparently happening during the Darkseid invasion--so who's to say that maybe a more secretive Helena Wayne, disguised as Bartenelli, didn't help out a certain Black Canary or even had a hacker friend that got her good intel?

Date: 2012-04-27 05:02 pm (UTC)
sil: Emma Frost (Bitch. Please.)
From: [personal profile] sil
Ugh. Thanks, DC, for killing off another of my favorite characters and giving me another book to avoid.

Date: 2012-04-27 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kksimone
So, for Earth-2, Lois and Selina have died so their husbands can angst (a Batman tormented and driven by the loss of a loved one? How original!), and Helena B. died off panel at some point so Helena W. could have a secret identity?

Which also doesn't make Helena W. and Power Girl come off too well since they're casually flipping through other (possibly dead) women's passports. Are we really supposed to believe the daughter of Batman and Catwoman couldn't come up with a fake identity on her own?

Date: 2012-04-27 08:49 pm (UTC)
leikomgwtfbbq: (I'M A RITER LOL)
From: [personal profile] leikomgwtfbbq
but but but DARK AND EDGY! D:

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Date: 2012-04-27 05:37 pm (UTC)
jeyl: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jeyl
I don't get it. All I see is a woman burning her own passport and being very metaphorical on the prospect of not using that particular identity.

Date: 2012-04-27 06:49 pm (UTC)
auggie18: (Default)
From: [personal profile] auggie18
In the old universe, Helena Bertinelli was a real woman with her own story arcs, friends, relationships, etc. In the DCnU, they reduce that to "she was real, but I stole her identity and she's dead. Dead dead dead." from Helena Wayne.


It isn't exactly a great send-off to the woman who has been the Huntress for the last 22 years.

Date: 2012-04-27 05:43 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Maybe I'm just an old fart because I remember wondering the reverse, and why the hell they made the Huntress, Batman's daughter, a Mafia don's daughter post COIE, but this doesn't really faze me,

Though I can appreciate it might folks who only knew the Helena Bertinelli version.

Date: 2012-04-28 12:22 am (UTC)
kenn_el: Northstar_Hmm (Default)
From: [personal profile] kenn_el
Same here. I liked Helena Wayne, but have always been lukewarm as far as Bertinelli was concerned. Looking forward to the new Wayne/Huntress.

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Date: 2012-04-27 08:29 pm (UTC)
rdfox: Joker asking Tim Drake, "'Sup?" from Paul Dini's "Slay Ride" (Default)
From: [personal profile] rdfox
You know, I haven't broken this one out in *quite* a while now. I've fought *very* hard to avoid my urge to use it towards the way that DCnU has turned out to be everything I expected--a horrible mashup of Silver Age fetishism with 90s gratuitous violence, plus a healthy dose of misogyny and fridging. But between this and Harley being killed off?

Yeah.

(And the only reason I didn't include the Aoki cluster-F-bomb is that I think I got a warning for using it last time.)

Date: 2012-04-27 08:51 pm (UTC)
leikomgwtfbbq: (dude what)
From: [personal profile] leikomgwtfbbq
But between this and Harley being killed off?

dude what

Please tell me you're joking D:

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Motto!

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Date: 2012-04-27 11:01 pm (UTC)
big_daddy_d: (Default)
From: [personal profile] big_daddy_d
had a feeling this happened.

Date: 2012-04-27 11:25 pm (UTC)
thespis: ([wonderfalls] keysmash)
From: [personal profile] thespis
Goddammit.

Yet another of my favourite characters unceremoniously ditched.

Hating on DC so much right now.

Date: 2012-04-28 12:16 am (UTC)
mastermahan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mastermahan
Actually, I'm happy about this - it confirms that Helena Bertinelli did exist as a real person, and not just as a made-up alias. Sure, Ms. Wayne says she's dead, but this is comics - Helena's not really dead until we see the body.

Date: 2012-04-28 12:38 am (UTC)
kraesil: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kraesil
Helena B show up!

If this does not happen, I should think I'll quit DC altogether and move to Marvel. Well, after AvX is over in any case. Is it?

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Date: 2012-04-28 12:57 am (UTC)
arise: (mass effect ♥ mordin does not approve)
From: [personal profile] arise
Even coming from the perspective of not knowing much about either Huntress, both of them come off as incredibly callous and unpleasant people. Way to not show any respect whatsoever towards the dead.

Date: 2012-04-28 02:54 am (UTC)
aeka: (Power Girl [wtf]:)
From: [personal profile] aeka
I agree. Both Kara and Helena feel staunchly out of character in these first three pages, which is unusual coming from Levitz who created Helena Wayne.

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Was my quest really this short?

Date: 2012-04-28 03:16 am (UTC)
eaglet_auditore: Jaime Reyes from Tiny Titans issue (I think) 41 (no pues)
From: [personal profile] eaglet_auditore
I see. Well DC, this Auditore is outta here!

I still want Batwing in trade, and perhaps Demon Knights since I've read things that might please me, but I think that when I'll be done finding the old pre-New 52 trades on my list, I'll be pretty much done.

okimstillbuyingbluebeetlebecauseiamadesperatechapitssopitifulitkindahurts

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Date: 2012-04-30 12:36 pm (UTC)
eyz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] eyz
Ah, come on!
They couldn't have done worse if they'd tried :/

Date: 2012-05-01 12:01 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Don't challenge them on things like that...

That's like reading a Chuck Austen X-Men title and trying to console yourself with "Well, the next issue couldn't POSSIBLY be worse than this"

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