3 pages from SUPERMAN BATMAN #87

[starwolf_oakley]

These pages from the last issue of SUPERMAN BATMAN. They cover the idea that some "regular" citizens aren't happy with what Batman "did" to Gotham City.








There is something to be said about preferring untouchable mobsters over garish serial killers.

The editor is fired as Wayne Enterprises is buying the paper. Nothing can be proved other than he put a name in a dropbox.



I remember somewhere a DC editor saying Superman was the fireman. It could have been DiDio. Because Dan DiDio hates you, that's why.



Here's a link to the last page done without the word balloons:
http://blondthecolorist.deviantart.com/art/Superman-Batman-87-p20-254600654

Comments

[ensiform]

I think Batman's words here are a bunch of crap. More "dark brooding Batman is wiser than silly boyscout Superman" fanboy nonsense.

What Superman should have responded, instead of gaping like the dipshit this writer made him, was: "Yeah? There were twenty thousand violent deaths today all over the world. I hear them all, all the time. Someone's killing someone right now. I triage constantly. I go for the biggest fires, the worse crimes, and I have to let the minor ones go. But none of them are minor; every one is a tragedy. I just saved seventy people all over the world right while we were standing out here and you were talking shit. I just caught a burning plane in Tokyo while you turned your head there for a second. I blew out a fire in Chicago while you blinked just now. Who's the fireman now, assface?"

[mrstatham]

I don't think it's a particularly good showing for either character. It's far too easy to just portray Batman as holding back the tide and basically being that fireman, but the fact of the matter is that a good number of the people that torment Gotham owe nothing to him in their origins and would still basically be the supervillains tormenting Gotham. Aside from the Joker, these people would still be the same without a Batman. Imagine how much more awful Gotham would be without him, and also consider the good Bruce Wayne does for Gotham behind the scenes - when dipshit writers aren't intent on pushing the 'BRUCE IS A MASK BECAUSE HE DIED WHEN HIS PARENTS DID' nonsense.

So as it is.. I think this, frankly, is a shitty portrayal of both characters caused by a character who we've never seen before with an incredibly shitty strawman argument.

[starwolf_oakley]

It's more of a "At least when Falcone was in charge the trains ran on time and crazed Chinese Ninjas weren't trying to blow them up" argument.

[mrstatham]

Yeah, and in the mean time, a psychotic fuck ran the SWAT team on the police force who could basically deploy bombs to get rid of one man and actively destroyed Gotham's park, going by what I remember of Year One, and the Police Commissioner himself was a corrupt bastard on Falcone's payroll whilst children were being prostituted in the streets. It's a rose-tinted strawman argument if there ever was one.

And the idea that Batman lures these people in to Gotham is such nonsense; Going by Batman Begins, Falcone eventually ended up being on Ra's payroll. Going by another example - the awesome 'Trial' episode of BTAS, nearly every single one of Batman's foes has nothing involving Batman in their origin, and are not actively interested in involving Batman in their plots. These villains target the people of Gotham because they're sick fucks, not because Batman's there.

[theflames]

Yeah see that's the thing. The man is so powerful, thats the bloody thing with Superman. No range. Just 'he can do what he wants when the situation calls for it', I love the character but geez.

And there can be more than one fireman, why should we have two grown men having a pissing match instead of one just being a dick?

...Assface?