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Gail just confirmed over twitter that the new Batgirl editor, Brian Cunningham, that she is no longer the writer of Batgirl, despite her refuting rumours that she'd been replaced just earlier this week. Hm.

I will admit that despite my not being as much of a fan of her current Batgirl run as I've been of her other work, this still kind of saddens me, if only because she always seemed to be having a ball when it came to her writing and promoting this work.

And right after the all-female team-up book she'd spent a year working on was rejected right out of the gate when she pitched it too (probably because she wanted to use Steph in it).

Wonder why it happened, it wasn't as if she wanted to leave or that the book wasn't successful...

On the topic of Batgirl, here is a part from Birds of Prey that involves Babs and men's relationships with her. Though I'm pretty sure Simone didn't write this version of Babs, I kind of prefer this one to the one in her current solo series, sorry.











In addition, here's a page from the Batman 15 preview, which I'm actually looking forward to quite a bit...
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=14496

Date: 2012-12-09 10:33 pm (UTC)
kirke_novak: (DC: Batwing)
From: [personal profile] kirke_novak
Yeah I saw the news earlier. My twitter feed exploded in disbelief. To be honest, while I didn't read Batgirl (good luck trying to force me to read anything Batman related) as far as I understood, it was one of the best selling DC books. Why fire a popular creator then? Only two things come to mind: a) you found someone BIG to write it or b) the creator refused to follow an editorial mandate. Judging from an exchange on her twitter (someone asking if she didn't fridge enough women, Gail replying with "funny you should say that") I strongly suspect it's the latter. We're they trying to have her kill off a female character for drama? Were they tried to force her to put back Babs in a wheelchair in a very unpleasant manner? I think we will find out soon enough...

Oh and she was fired by EMAIL. Pure class, DC, pure class...

Date: 2012-12-10 03:19 am (UTC)
jaybee3: Nguyen Lil Cass (Default)
From: [personal profile] jaybee3
Not surprised though. DC sold the title (and Barbara's recovery) to fans with the idea that Gail was writing it (literally the press releases mentioned her again and again) and now they no longer need her they can go in the direction they wanted. Batgirl never SEEMED to be a Gail Simone book to me - it was humorless, plodding, kept going back and back to the Killing Joke and the Barbara in it didn't even seem like the same Babs Gail wrote just prior to the reboot. It seemed/seems like an entirely Editorial driven enterprise (compare to Batman where Snyder seems to do what he wants largely).

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Date: 2012-12-09 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] lonewolf23k
Wow, it's amazing how not surprised I am. It's as if DC is repeatedly aiming to shoot itself in the foot now.

Date: 2012-12-09 10:41 pm (UTC)
zechs80: (Mayuri)
From: [personal profile] zechs80
I've already commented on the Miss Simone issue on three various websites already. But I really want to comment on that Batman preview here. That page you posted espanolbot. Dang that is a creepy page.

I LOVE IT! Even if I'm not too fond of leatherface Joker.

Date: 2012-12-09 10:48 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] turtlefu
I'm happy in a sad way, because Gail is a strong enough writer to get far, far away from the creative vortext that is DC Comics.

Date: 2012-12-09 10:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
We're having a discussion about this over on no_scansdaily (Where non directly scans related items like news of this sort should really go)

Date: 2012-12-09 10:53 pm (UTC)
mrosa: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrosa
She's not a writer I'm interested in, but I understand she's a popular writer and has a loyal female readership which DC badly needs (or perhaps doesn't give a shit about), so this is a very awkward idea.

And in the same week Karen Berger is stepping down from Vertigo. Horrible timing. I think the very audible corners of internet female fandom are going to get even louder in the days to come.

Date: 2012-12-10 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] shadur
And no matter what you think of her quality as a writer, firing someone by email is just an utter asshole move.

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Date: 2012-12-09 10:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverhammerman
That's a pretty creepy preview. I like the part at the end with the punching. Punching is always fun. Of course Joker will have to escape so we can get another issue out of this, but I'm really enjoying seeing him get a good face punching for the time being. And it's kind of awful and amazing how Capullo shows Joker's mask-face kind of flapping as he gets punched, I mean, it's still a stupid look for the Joker, but I thing Capullo draws the shit out of it.
And yeah, Gail Simone being taken off Batgirl like that sucks.
Edited Date: 2012-12-09 11:05 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-12-09 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
This really saddens me. I'm one of those in the minority that has truly enjoyed the hell out of Simone's Batgirl, and feel it's the best Barbara that I've read in YEARS. Hopefully, whoever they get to replace Gail is just as good.

Date: 2012-12-09 11:05 pm (UTC)
kirke_novak: (Marvel: Deadpool WTF?!)
From: [personal profile] kirke_novak
So I had this page opened, put my iPad down to fiddle with my iPhone, looked back... and the page scrolled up so Joker was staring directly at me. I nearly jumped. Quickly scrolled down again, put my iPad down, double checked it didn't return to the Joker pic, left the room, then came back... and it scrolled up again. This is not good.

Date: 2012-12-10 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Clearly the Joker has control of your iPad. O_O

Date: 2012-12-09 11:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Frankly, when it comes to Batgirl, nothing of value is being lost, but I'm increasingly of the opinion that the way DC have dropped her from the title is absolutely appalling - do these people not even work in the same office? - but none of the stuff Simone's done for the New52 has been her strongest work.

As for that Joker page - hell yes. It's creepy as hell and reinforces what Capullo was saying about him being truly scary in terms of what he's putting across. There is just something really creepy and disgusting about Capullo's take that none of the others are really getting.

Date: 2012-12-10 06:32 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] doomisay
"do these people not even work in the same office?"

For the most part, no. This isn't the 60s where everybody is working out of the "bullpen".

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Date: 2012-12-09 11:27 pm (UTC)
janegray: (Default)
From: [personal profile] janegray
Here is hoping Gail can get a new awesome job soon.

Date: 2012-12-12 01:03 am (UTC)
nezchan: Toony version of me, more or less (Default)
From: [personal profile] nezchan
She made an interesting comment on Tumblr that suggests she may be considering doing some original creator-owned stuff.

Date: 2012-12-09 11:36 pm (UTC)
rijsg: (batman - grey)
From: [personal profile] rijsg
I hope Simone gets a new comic to write soon. I don't like her Batgirl as much as her other stuff, but it was pretty fun. I'm not too surprised, though. I dunno what the sales are like but I very, very rarely hear any good reactions to Batgirl. Sometimes it feels like I'm the only person who likes it. So this isn't exactly surprising.

Also I CANNOT WAIT THREE MORE DAYS FOR BATMAN! It's by FAR my favorite DC comic right now, I love everything Scott Snyder does, and the Joker story is just too perfect. That page, man. AMAZING. GET HERE NOW, WEDNESDAY. NOOOOOOW.

Sales Figures

Date: 2012-12-10 04:33 am (UTC)
dragonbat2006: Canon Error (Default)
From: [personal profile] dragonbat2006
Photobucket

The title's been outselling Wonder Woman.

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Date: 2012-12-09 11:53 pm (UTC)
lencannon: shy guy (Default)
From: [personal profile] lencannon
Hahaha, jesus Christ.

Who wouldn't she kill for you DC?

Here's a twitter conversation between her and Mike Nelson

Mike: did you not put enough women in refrigerators or something?
Gail: Funny you should say that.

Date: 2012-12-10 12:13 am (UTC)
zechs80: (Mayuri)
From: [personal profile] zechs80
I think the Magic 8 Ball says Barbara's mother.

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Date: 2012-12-10 12:17 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
That's perhaps the creepiest I've seen that Joker look, but it's still not the Joker to me.

Wouldn't perpetually minute pupils mean he'd be effectively blind even in fairly bright light?

Date: 2012-12-10 12:26 am (UTC)
rijsg: (batman - grey)
From: [personal profile] rijsg
Possibly, but it wouldn't be the first time Scott Snyder's Batman wasn't medically accurate. Or Batman in general wasn't medically accurate.

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Date: 2012-12-10 12:26 am (UTC)
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What did I tell you? She didn't want to play ball with Scott Snyder's crapy "event" story and its total reliance on drifting characters, so DC booted her. Bloody typical.

Date: 2012-12-10 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Considering Snyder was one of the people who wished her well, I don't think that's the case.

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Date: 2012-12-10 03:42 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] salinea
This discussion is already taking place at [livejournal.com profile] noscans_daily and the scan posted isn't relevant to the topic being discussed. Please modify your post or it may be subject to deletion.

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Date: 2012-12-10 05:45 am (UTC)
beoweasel: (Default)
From: [personal profile] beoweasel
I'm sorry, this Joker just isn't terrifying. Grotesque? Certainly, but being grotesque isn't the same as intimidating.
capt_satellite: (Default)
From: [personal profile] capt_satellite
He must be taking butt-loads of anti-biotics now. Great. Joker has better health insurance than I do.
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
Well, if you've read Peter Milligan's FACE, then you have a list of just what ol' Jokey should have died from by now.

Ouchie!

Date: 2012-12-10 08:37 am (UTC)
capt_satellite: (Default)
From: [personal profile] capt_satellite
He must be going through one hell of a lot of Bactine and Neosporin. He doesn't strike me as an aloe-vera kind of guy.

Seriously....if DC gives Ms. Simone the shaft again, I am THROUGH with DC.

Date: 2012-12-10 09:30 am (UTC)
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
Do not stand in the way of the Snyder.

Date: 2012-12-10 05:50 pm (UTC)
ablackraptor: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ablackraptor
...Anyone else notice in the First panel that Ollie is doing the infamous TnA pose?

Date: 2012-12-10 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
I just want Babs out of the Batgirl suit. Okay... so she's up and about and proved she could do it. Let's have her decide that's the only reason she was doing it, that she can do more as a hacker and mentor to other heroes

Date: 2012-12-13 02:17 am (UTC)
b_dangerous: "That's Nice." (Default)
From: [personal profile] b_dangerous
I was seriously under the impression that the book was completely editorial mandated from the start. Especially when you consider that the new 52 is by far one of Simone's worst books. She did a wonderful job with Birds of Prey and utilizing Babs' character, only for this book to pop up and completely nullify it.

And while nothing of value was really lost, it saddens and confuses me that she'd get the axe this way. It really makes me wonder what kind of stuff was going on behind the scenes.

Date: 2012-12-15 11:42 am (UTC)
kraesil: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kraesil
DC did something stupid again, so I'm de-lurking.

Omg, DC. WTH ARE YOU DOING?!?!? You are absolutely not doing you or anyone else any good with your throwing popular titles/characters out the window. Too late to scrap the DCnU, but are you seriously trying to alienate everyone?
Edited Date: 2012-12-15 11:43 am (UTC)

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