Superior Spider-Man #2
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Date: 2013-01-30 04:41 pm (UTC)I like how the disturbing rape implications are addressed here with a firm "not gonna happen." I like how MJ, while she never quite figures it out, still knows something's off enough to never give Otto anything more then a peck on the cheek. And I like the reason Otto gives up at the end - because he gets Peter's feelings for MJ. He doesn't leave her until he genuinely starts caring for her.
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Date: 2013-01-30 04:47 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-01-30 04:57 pm (UTC)And I know some people who have commented before who will be relieved to find this out.
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Date: 2013-01-30 05:20 pm (UTC)i am a little annoyed that it seems more like Carlye is the one who is piecing it together....
though i do LOVED Peter saying that he and MJ are soulmates....
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Date: 2013-01-30 05:28 pm (UTC)At least MJ suspects something funky is going on. Even if she can't quite piece it together. (It would be funny if she thought it was the Chameleon again.)
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Date: 2013-01-30 05:29 pm (UTC)But seeing how she's suspicious because Pete-as-Ock told her it was really him, it's understandable.
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Date: 2013-01-31 01:17 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-01-30 05:37 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-01-30 05:45 pm (UTC)1. Doc Ock, and this issue apparently, is making a similar argument that One Moment in Time used--that even though Peter and MJ love each other, they can never be together so long as Peter continues to be Spider-Man. It's an argument I didn't buy then, and an argument I don't buy now. Plus, the way this is set up now, even if Peter does get his body back and explains to MJ what really happened, this issue now establishes suggests MJ believed what "Peter" said was right regardless (though in [I]One Moment in Time[/I], she was the one who made the argument herself to Peter).
2. Even though Doc Ock is no longer going to sexually take advantage of MJ, he's still free to do so towards any other female supporting cast member, as when he starts to flirt with Salani Jaffrey in this issue. As Ghost Peter even points out, just because MJ is safe doesn't make it okay for SpOck to put other unsuspecting women to be in his cross-hairs.
3. Despite the fact that MJ acknowledges the fact that "Peter" is behaving like a completely different person, she STILL hasn't come to the conclusion that maybe "Peter" is actually an imposter. And this is the woman who is supposed to be Peter's soulmate who knows him better than anyone else and lived with him for years.
4. Speaking of which, this issue also pretty much confirms that Carlie does indeed suspect that "Peter" may in fact be Doc Ock based on what "Doc Ock" told her in Amazing Spider-Man #700. But does Carlie bother to tell MJ these suspicions? No. If SpOck and MJ dated for a two week period, that means that Carlie has known that MJ is potentially putting herself in danger all that time, yet hasn't said a single word. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Carlie biggest pet peeve is when friends and loved one lie and keep secrets from her, and wasn't that the reason she broke up with Peter in the first place?
5. If what that scene with Doc Ock recalling Peter's memories of his "sexy time" with MJ suggests, doesn't this also mean that Doc Ock pulled a Skip Westcott on Peter? Cause remember, it's not his body he's playing with, it's Peter's.
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Date: 2013-01-30 06:05 pm (UTC)I know Ock is just scraping together an excuse, but then they have Peter AGREEING with him, implying Ock is the stronger man for "doing what he couldn't." HORSE HOCKEY. I'd be fine with this scene if Peter was going "thanks! But, um, you KNOW MJ isn't going to put up with that bullshit excuse for more than five seconds, right?")
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Date: 2013-01-30 06:16 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-01-30 06:41 pm (UTC)Why not? If one half of a potential relationship decides it would be too dangerous and doesn't want to do it, why should the other half have the right to try and force a relationship? You can't have a good relationship unless both sides actually think it's agood idea.
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Date: 2013-01-30 09:52 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2013-01-30 06:53 pm (UTC)I guess you could say that Carlie would assume that she'd need more than a story and a gut feeling to make the case. This is a CSI person, after all. My guess is that now she's going to try to find a way to get definitive proof.
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Date: 2013-01-30 09:17 pm (UTC)Well...
Date: 2013-01-30 05:46 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-01-30 06:42 pm (UTC)Marvel lost my money with the train wreck of ASM 700 & Slott acting like a petulant child on Twitter.
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Date: 2013-01-30 07:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-01-30 07:38 pm (UTC)+1 for Marvel!
...sadly
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Date: 2013-01-31 07:22 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-01-30 07:59 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-01-30 08:15 pm (UTC)I still don't like the implications of Ock getting together with any woman though, even if he gets together with someone who didn't know Peter before, I'm generally put out by the idea that Ock is using Peter's body for something that Peter doesn't want to do.
And boy was that scene with Ock reliving Peter's memories with MJ uncomfortable. Really voyeuristic and gross.
Glad that Slott's putting Ock on the path to heroism though.
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Date: 2013-01-30 09:16 pm (UTC)Also, "Someone is always going to need Spider-Man to save them" is why I never totally buy any "Peter tries to get rid of his powers" story.
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Date: 2013-01-30 11:30 pm (UTC)Still not buying it though.
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Date: 2013-01-30 11:44 pm (UTC)MJ wants to get back with Peter.
And she wouldn't want to do that if she had the slightest suspicion that he wasn't who he said he was, or that he was possessed, or any of the things that Wolverine suspected over in Avenging.
Slott is still writing her like an idiot, when he should be writing her as the person who saw through the Chameleon's Peter-disguise almost IMMEDIATELY.
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Date: 2013-01-31 12:43 am (UTC)And even though Peter describes MJ as his soulmate here which should make me happy since they're one of my favorite comic book couples, I just can't get over the fact that MJ, who is in love with Peter and whom Peter thinks of as his soulmate, hasn't realized that Ock!Spiderman isn't Peter.
She reconized the Chameleon when he was pretending to be Peter, so what the hell...
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Date: 2013-01-31 03:02 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-01-31 03:24 am (UTC)Yeah, sure, as if.
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Date: 2013-01-31 03:06 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-01-31 05:39 am (UTC)This book does a good job of lowering expectations. Sure, this "for your own good" business is played out and sort of paternalistic, but at least MJ's not getting raped!