The secret origin of Elsa Bloodstone!

[kojiro]

Greetings true believers! Long-time lurker, first-time poster here!

Comments

[icon_uk]

Those are some seriously sodding disturbed parenting skills there Ulysses Bloodstone.

[thanekos]

If nothing else, last week's Avengers Arena let us know Elsa wasn't the only kid he did this kind of thing to.

[mrstatham]

The only difference is that Ellis did this in an extremely tongue-in-cheek manner, and that the series was never meant to be in-continuity, hence the goofball takes on a Dormammu-esque character and Fin Fang Foom and.. Well, the final villain (no spoilers for people who haven't read it). Marvel just stupidly decided something like this *was* in continuity, despite the fact it doesn't fit at all.

[theflames]

I'm truly a fan of it being in continuity. People are always complaining that comics aren't 'fun' anymore, well, this sure as hell was, and I like that these brand of personalities are now canon in the marvel universe.

Plus Avengers Arena is a little more reasonable, with Cullen going in at the age of 12 years old. Versus Elsa's 12 months.

[jlroberson]

I love Rorkannu though.

"YES! I HAVE TWENTY OF THE HUMAN DOLLARS!"

[mrstatham]

The idea of a quasi-Satanic, ultra-evil sort of being coming to Earth and being interested in money and Suicide Girls is pretty hilarious.

Don't take what I said as me bagging on Nextwave at all, by the by - It's still one of my favourite Ellis works - I just don't think Marvel continuity deserves something so good.

[squirle]

Probably not what I should be focussing at, certainly not since it's Nextwave, but... how can that thing be called the "Blight Beast of KRAKOW" when it's been in a cage for 5000 years?

[bewareofgeek]

Maybe that's where the pit is?

[tugrul]

Indeed. Krakow exists since the stone age so tying it's name to it's place of origin still works.

[leoboiko]

I don't have anything to add, but I just wanted to see my avatar below yours.

[icon_uk]

The scans_daily approach to life, in a nutshell! :)

[rainspirit]

icon_uk's comment is out of order here. His icon should be above tugrul's. =D

[silicondream]

The name "Krakow" is a lot younger than 5,000 years, though.

So you get the feeling that he originally called it "The Blight Beast of That One Collection of Huts The Locals Called 'Hurrrrgh'", and then when the city of Krakow was founded, he was like, "New rule, self! It's the Blight Beast of Krakow! Much snappier name!"

[espanolbot]

Maybe the city is named after it? Or maybe that's the noise it makes and it actually comes from Leeds or something?

[icon_uk]

What else would you call it this day and age? It's living in the area where Krakow is now.

[captainbellman]

Warren Ellis deserves all the applause for having snuck the word "Felch" into a regular ol' Marvel comic. I didn't find out that was even a word until I started getting into Chuck Palhniuk.

[icon_uk]

Right up there with Destiny being Mystique's "Leman" and Wilmer in the Maltese Falcon being a "gunsel"...

[bewareofgeek]

Although Gaiman did it in DC first, in the original Books of Magic mini.

And all because his editor wouldn't let him have Constantine drop the F-bomb...

[jlroberson]

I found it out because a girlfriend wanted to see the look on my face when she explained it.

The screams.

[vspope]

Nextwave is 100% Marvel-616 canon and I will not live in a universe where this is not true.

[chrisdv]

Hey, it was included in the list of things that would change if Hank Pym died when he was creating Ultron that Bendis put together for Age of Ultron...

[captainbellman]

I wouldn't be surprised to find The Captain is holed up in a bunker with Marvelman and all the other unused characters, trying to put himself in some kind of alcoholic coma...

[leikomgwtfbbq]

Actually, that's probably exactly why he's been unused. He's just succumbed to a truly mighty booze snooze :P

[auggie18]

I think the Captain was actually last seen in Pet Avengers, where he was the President's dog's bodyguard.

[bizarrohulk]

I believe the official Marvel line is that the Nextwave stories are true in broad strokes, but that some specific details may be lies and/or drug-induced hallucinations on the part of the characters involved.

[spacebetween]

Only some aspects of Nextwave is canon. As it is, Warren Ellis stated in 2005 that he intended the series to be a self contained universe due to the nature of the series. Really the writer's intention should have been enough. Though Joe Quesada a year later even confirmed that it was self contained.

It was only later on during the Civil War story arc did some of the Nextwave elements start sneaking in. They then tried to correct these contradictions of the Nextwave elements by saying they were from Earth A.

But once again, seems like some writers either are not getting the memo or just don't care. So some elements could have happened or there was some form mind control/mind alterations in play.

[jlroberson]

This.

[leoboiko]

She should be friends with the Son of Kronar from Oglaf:



(More background on Kronar here—NSFW!—and the Son here—NSFW²‼)

I find the baby adorable

[blue_bolt]

"Blpt."

Re: I find the baby adorable

[superfangirl1]

I concur and hope she kicks butt.

Re: I find the baby adorable

[mrstatham]

Unfortunately, Elsa hasn't really been used nearly as awesomely elsewhere as she has in Nextwave. Although the same could be said of nearly all the cast.

[acerbictomes]

I LOVE NEXTWAVE. Man, I remember this...