Harley is free of the Suicide Squad and she's having fun in Gotham, but first she has to give out free video game systems to all the boys and girls! Then she dresses up like a cop and visits a police station with quite a bit of dynamite in her car.
It doesn't, true. But it also fails to make her at all sympathetic, so it takes it too far the other way. Unless that was the point. Baiting the reader into sympathizing with her, only for her to do something gut wrenchingly awful and make us feel bad for ever liking her.
And while Hagen and Fries are sympathetic because others turned them into monsters, they still chose to pursue revenge while endangering the lives of others.
So... have you just completely reversed your position? The villains are not "fundamentally bad people", and had they not been "turned into monsters" by outside forces, they would not have become evil.
Other people turned them into monsters on the outside, but the way they responded to that made them monsters on the inside too, albeit somewhat pitiful ones. Ultimately, it was a choice.
That was the point the DA made in that episode. Regardless of whatever circumstances, including meeting Batman, led to them being costumed villains, they all likely would still be out there causing pain and misery to others. They were responsible for their own messed up lives. Even the "jury" admitted this was true.
Okay, so maybe it's less "Fundamentally bad people" and more "they made bad choices".
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Date: 2013-09-12 12:11 pm (UTC)And while Hagen and Fries are sympathetic because others turned them into monsters, they still chose to pursue revenge while endangering the lives of others.
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Date: 2013-09-12 01:05 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-09-12 11:51 pm (UTC)That was the point the DA made in that episode. Regardless of whatever circumstances, including meeting Batman, led to them being costumed villains, they all likely would still be out there causing pain and misery to others. They were responsible for their own messed up lives. Even the "jury" admitted this was true.
Okay, so maybe it's less "Fundamentally bad people" and more "they made bad choices".