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A lot of comics this week! Because I forgot to do this last week! Well, not so much "forgot" as "had a ton of life stuff going on."

Any telepathic or pheromone-based super power sorta makes all of your personal relationships suspect. How can you really be sure you aren’t manipulating the other person, even if you’re not trying to? When does wishing that someone will like you turn into making someone like you?

I might be misinterpreting Benjamin Deeds’ powers here. My general impression so far has been “Meggan from Excalibur but less powerful and also a gay dude.”

I know they’re going to explain how Corsair came back from the dead, but I would kinda enjoy it if they didn’t. He blew off explaining it in the issue he came back in and I sorta hope that they don’t follow up on it.

I’m sure that the time displaced original five’s story isn’t actually shitty, but I haven’t really been reading it, so I can’t say for sure.

Boy, it sure took a lot of words to reach that non-punchline.

…I honestly don’t know, I just had this idea and then…yeah. I don’t know.

I didn’t spend a lot of time on this one because I was drawing it in a Starbucks and people kept looking over my shoulder and watching me draw, which makes me intensely uncomfortable.

Just scratching the surface of Wolverine’s offspring here. (No pun intended.) Dude gets around. There are a bunch I didn’t include, but that doesn’t mean I forgot them! It just means I didn’t feel like drawing every one of Wolverine’s various crotch goblins. There’s a lot of bublets. Snikters. Whatever.

For the record: Wild Thing (MC2) Kirika (AoA) Raze (BotA) Daken (616) X-23 (616) Torrent (What-If: Battleworld) and Jimmy (Ultimates)

Yes, I'm aware X-23 is a clone. Yes, I'm aware Wolverine's healing factor will grow his wolverjunk back. (Despite the fact he currently has no healing factor, but we all know that won't last.) Yes, these are all real complaints I got.

Ha ha, Teon. You will never be important again.

This is one of those things I think about too much.

Boy, you can tell exactly when I ran out of time with this one, huh?

I’d imagine that being a knowledge-based superhero has a lot of really annoying drawbacks.

I think I hit all of Scott’s major relationships. I skipped over stuff like his trip to alternate reality bone town with Frenzy.

Well, that's about it. If you enjoyed these, you might want to check out my tumblr:

If you didn't enjoy these, you might want to send me a long message about how shitty my art is and how I probably don't even actually read comics.


Date: 2014-02-27 02:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] leoboiko
And then when he finally finds the psionically immune gay man who hits mutual attraction, he'll still never know whether the relationship is sincere, since he might stay with him just because he's the only one to qualify.
Edited Date: 2014-02-27 02:15 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-02-27 09:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ablackraptor
And like that, he becomes the token Woobie of this team of X-Men, replacing Gold Balls now that BG has found a use for his power in combat.

Date: 2014-02-27 02:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Meggan's power doesn't affect other people, only herself. She's an empathic/environmental metamorph; originally she'd take on the form that other people were thinking about her.

When she was born, she was cold, and reflexively grew fur, and that started rumours in the Romani family she born into, that she had claws (So she grew claws), that she was scary looking (so got sharp teeth and a not quite human face), that she had wings like a bat (so she grew underarm bat wings) and so on. Because people around her saw that and expected that that's how she stayed.

It wasn't until she was loved, and gained self confidence, that she took on her now standard form (though originally her hair wasn't hair, it was some sort of of sparkling energy). She also still tended to change when in extreme environments, so her body instantly adapted to hazardous situations, up to a point.

For a while she still reverted to her old look when she felt alone or unloved, but I haven't seen her do that in ages.

Must do a post about her, the art tended towards the very impressive.

Date: 2014-02-27 05:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
That sounds like a pretty useful power- all you need is for your friends to start positive rumors about you and what abilities you have.

Date: 2014-02-27 04:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] urkonn
Benjamin Deeds should probably just date Billy Kaplan. Billy can change reality so he is psionically immune. He might also make Benjamin into a half Kree - half Skrull prince... and everyone will think he always was one.

Date: 2014-02-27 05:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
Oh, X makes the spot, in *that* school....? Yikes!

Date: 2014-02-27 07:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] crinos
I think Wiccan and The Purple Man's daughter should start a support group for people who can't have meaningful relationships because their powers may be forcing people to love them.

Lets see, it would be Wiccan, Persuasion, and maybe Starfox (Didn't he have his pheromone powers removed because Thanos was messing with them?)

Date: 2014-02-27 10:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
See also Daken, Temptress (A mutant woman possessed by the Brood), Mandrill deliberately misuses the same sort of power because he's a misogynistic SOB.

Then there's Apollo and Charma, villains in the Legion of Superheroes (Each could charm the other gender and arouse hatred in their own gender... as powers went it was a messy variation)

A few others, I suspect...

Date: 2014-02-27 11:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lieut_kettch
Spider-Woman too. Though I think Jess can consciously control her pheromone release.

Date: 2014-02-27 11:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] obsidianwolf
I think Beast had pheromone's that made him more attractive when he first went blue and fuzzy but it was quickly forgotten about.

Wallflower would count if she hadn't been treated as disposable.

Also technically any telepath or Reality warper would probably be there since humans can't control every subconscious wish and they have the power to make it happen.

Date: 2014-03-01 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
I have the power to punch people in the face. Occasionally in the course of my life I have the wish to punch people in the face. I am able to refrain from using that power.

Date: 2014-03-01 10:58 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] obsidianwolf
Bit different though a person choosing to hit someone means making the decision to do so.

A subconcious thought in the heads of a reality warper or telepath doesn't have as far to go. I mean Franklin Richards instinctively created a freaking universe to save his parents and the Avengers. Whose to say when he hits puberty he won't be dreaming of his perfect girl or guy and they just wink into existence.

I mean a well trained telepath with good control opposed to manipulating people isn't very likely to intentionally or unintentionally force someone to be attracted to them but if they loose control which happens even to the best of them then it is certainly a possible out come. Not to mention all the untrained telepaths who might be using their power subconsciously.

Even the Jean and Cyclops relationship can be read as being originally successful because of the psychic rapport with flashbacks to Jean being able to sense Scott once even while Sinister was shielding him from telepaths in the orphanage. Something Xavier said would only be possible with a truly compatible mind. Not to mention how fast Xavier fell for Lilandra and vice versa because of again a psychic compatibility.

The fact Jean and Scott's marriage completely fell apart after his possession by Apocalypse destroyed that rapport could even be seen as raising the question if they would have fallen for each other without it.

Most comic universes introduce some truly interesting potential questions about consent with some folks power schemes that writers wisely gloss over.

Editing real quick by wisely gloss over I don't mean that consent issues in comics should be glossed over. I mean that writers some times ignore the fact that a lot of power sets could potentially lead to some complicated questions that could really bog down a title if looked at too closely.

Which probably explains why some power sets aren't common in good heroes because they elephant in the room is completely visible. The pheromone manipulating characters who are good either die or drift off into comic limbo come to mind.
Edited Date: 2014-03-01 11:13 am (UTC)

Date: 2014-02-28 12:03 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] crinos
Ah right, Mandrill, why did I forget him? He's pretty much one of the perennial pheremone users.

I'd also say Spoor, but his pheremones make people angry.

Date: 2014-02-28 06:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
I'd also say Spoor, but his pheremones make people angry.

if people have angry sex because of the spores is that a result of hte spores or a resort of the anger? i mean, there are times when i get really angry at a partner (or rather we get angry with each other. and next thing we know, we are having sex....)

Date: 2014-02-28 01:26 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dustbunny105
The Crimson Foxes use pheromones as well and Max Lord has his powers of suggestion, of course.

Speaking of them, I wonder how many of these folks could solve the problem by intermingling. If I'm remembering right, whichever Crimson Fox it was alive at the end of Justice League Europe leaves the League because of Max's powers interfering with hers.

Date: 2014-02-28 04:11 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] crinos
Doesn't Max get a massive nosebleed when he uses his powers? As in he nearly passes out from it?

I don't think it counts if using your power takes so much effort its akin to sticking your frontal lobe in a blender.

Date: 2014-02-28 04:33 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dustbunny105
Hm, maybe? I thought the severity of the nose bleeds depended on how strong a suggestion he was trying to push and usually stayed trickles.

Date: 2014-03-01 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] michaelhealy
Putting all of the people who could potentially alter each other's minds ad reality in one room together would probably have dire consequences.

Date: 2014-02-27 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
"I skipped over stuff like his trip to alternate reality bone town with Frenzy."


Date: 2014-02-27 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
Couldn't Ben start a long distance relationship with someone online? Develop a relationship with someone through phone calls, texts, instant messaging and Skype. And then after attraction has already been established and Ben has trained to better control his powers then they can try meeting in person.

Though from what I gathered the pheromone/chemical aspect of his powers only kick in while he's shape shifting

Date: 2014-02-27 09:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ablackraptor
"Though from what I gathered the pheromone/chemical aspect of his powers only kick in while he's shape shifting"

Yes, but the shape-shifting isn't always a conscious thing; when stressed he just does it automatically, like he would probably be while on a first date.

Date: 2014-02-27 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
But if the guy he's on a date with already knows what Ben looks like and what his powers are, then he'll know that he's in danger of being manipulated the second Ben starts looking like him.

Date: 2014-02-28 01:19 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] crinos
Yeah, but then it turns out that the other guy is the blob, and then Wiccan gets beaten up by the Brotherhood and Magneto regains his memory.

Date: 2014-02-28 06:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
and then Wiccan gets beaten up by the Brotherhood and Magneto regains his memory.

wait... what?

Date: 2014-02-28 10:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] crinos
Its a reference to the second major arc of Ultimate X men.

Its been a while since I read it, but it goes like this: At the end of the first arc Xavier has erased Magneto's memory and stashed him away. During the goings on of the main story of the arc, there is a subplot where Beast has entered into a relationship with a girl online. Only the girl is actually Blob of the brotherhood of evil mutants. Over the course of the story, Blob figures out the other guy is Beast, and then Beast reveals he knows where Magneto is. Cue the X men returning from their mission to find Beast beaten up, and the brotherhood has gotten Magneto and restored his memory.

Date: 2014-02-27 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
It's worth noting that real life garden variety humans do produce pheromones, which have been observed to effect the behavior of other humans on a subconscious level. The takeaway from this is twofold. A) I'm not sure that equating pheromone powers to mind control is fair. B) You should always wear an air filter when tending your human-garden.

Date: 2014-02-28 06:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
You should always wear an air filter when tending your human-garden.

i love you... this is akin to Women have a secret garden and men have a gardening hose speech from "Now and Then"

Date: 2014-02-28 12:19 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tugrul
Please give yourself more credit for your creations. They are hilarious.

Date: 2014-02-28 03:22 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lilacsigil
Well, Thomas and William are extremely popular names of the last 100 years and remain so today, so it's not *that* weird. (Every woman on both sides of my family back to 1890 is Elizabeth either as a first or middle name, for example.) Maybe if they'd been named Phineas and Vision Jr...

Date: 2014-02-28 04:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] seisachtheia
The corsair thing made me actually laugh out loud. In the library. So thanks for that :-P

Date: 2014-02-28 05:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lieut_kettch
I believe the correct term for Logan-spawn is "Sniktling."

Date: 2014-03-01 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] 7dialsmystery
I thought that was a correct term for vasectomy.

Soooo i have acharacter....

Date: 2014-02-28 06:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
you know.... i have come across the problem with an empathic character i have created.

basically his empathy has caused him to be sorta jaded. he knows what other people are feeling and unfortunately negativity stands out the loudest. so as relationships goes, he hits up the clubs and searches for people who are like minded i thier jadedness. he figures, whats the point in having an actual relationship when all anybody really wants is a fuck.

so he goes to the club and uses his powers to find guys who are basically just looking to get laid. he offers a little "push" if the guy notices him, or shows interest.

he meets this one guy, who on the surface is putting on that front. yet that veneer is very light, he can tell that below the surface that's not why the guy is there. yet the guy catches his attention. and the guy is also definately interested, so he ignores what's beneath the surface and like the other guys, offers a little "push". they go home and you know, have empathically enhanched sex (so much fun) and when they wake up, despite the fact that the other guy is "hopful" my character tries to rationalize that "they both knew what they were getting into" however, there is something about the guy that draws my character to him so, rather than let him believe it was just a fling, he "soothes the negativaty and replaces it with contentment..." rather than let him believe he was just a piece of ass... the ending of the scene is supposed to imply (and the rest of the story) that my character is actually letting this guy in and they will embark on an attempt at a real relationsip...

my issue, if you can already tell is that this scene walks a very difficult line... the way i look at it, it's like two people who go out to a club, looking to hook up, neither of them is really satisified with the idea, but they are basically in a "Take what i can get" mentality, while beneath the surface (in my character's case DEEP beneath the surface) they want more, and both ignore this in an attempt for a connection of ANY kind.

i have less of an issue with the "push" than with the manipulation. my character is coming from a place of sympathy... when the guy wakes up the next morning and is hopful, he picks up that it was probably just a meaningless hook up. after which he feels ashamed. my character feels bad so rather than let him feel that he takes that away and gives him back the hope...

is there anyway this scene can be done and NOT come off super skeevy? i mean he is not exactly a hero at this point in the story. so he doens't have to be a shining paragon, but i don't want him coming off as "wtf dude" either....

i am willing to send this scene to anyone who is interested in reviewing it....

Date: 2014-02-28 11:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] terrykun
I was already plotting my thanks to you for remembering Kendall (who also had at least one younger sibling, if memory serves..), but then I lost it laughing at "alternate reality bone town". Well done, good artist. Well done.

But seriously, anyone who acknowledges Brave New World with any kind of fan-media gets cookies from me. It's my favorite What If...? of all time, and also my second favorite Marvel alternate universe (right behind 2099, because I've decided that was Kristoff being awesome and revolutionary...) DW-message me or AIM me (GoggleBoy83) an address, and I'll mail you a batch. (: Andes peppermint chip acceptable?

Now, come up with some fan-media of Vincent/Malefactor.... and wow. I'd be taking baked good requests. Three-chocolate brownies? Wasabi bread?

Date: 2014-03-01 09:07 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mastermahan
America, you're awesome and I love you, but you're really not someone who should be throwing the "ridiculously over-complicated" card out. You're a princess from another dimension ruled by Wiccan's future self, meaning your back story is inherently as complicated as his.

Poor Teon. The feels.

Date: 2014-03-01 03:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] terrykun
Teon's new code-name is HachikĊ.


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