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Obsession with proving he can be the Bat son--a better one since the first one "abandoned" the quest? It almost seems to say something that it begs the question of why he doesn't be Batman instead since the cruise and cave were his ideas.

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Does Jason know it was Bruce's idea? I'd think bonding as a family, most people would think it was Dick's idea.

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I didn't see how he could, but since he makes a reference to a cruise and a cave I figure he must. I suppose the cruise might have been public record, at least, that Bruce left with Dick and Tim?

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Yeah, that's what I thought so maybe he thought it was Dick abandoning Nightwing, as he's done about 3 times before?

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Heh. Dick's got identity issues with Nightwing going back and forth; Jason keeps taking up different identities.

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They all have identity ADD. Just look at Tim in Red Robin.

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It breaks my brain to look at Tim through Jason-tinted meta glasses.

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It's like Tim is going all DCAU on me or something.

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When does Jason miss an opportunity to blame Bruce? Jason basically thinks Bruce can do anything. He refused to think that Tim might have successfully stalked Batman, obviously Bruce knew and manipulated him, partly because he couldn't admit that Tim might be genuinely better than he himself was (thus justifying his fear that he wasn't good enough to be Robin).

Here he wouldn't bear thinking that Dick might've convinced Bruce to let go of the mission to spend time with family, when his attempt to get Bruce to make the mission less important than Jason ended in exploding buildings and Batman saving Joker's life.

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That's also an excellent point.

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Because until Bruce dies, Jason doesn't want to be Batman, he wants Batman's attention. He's competing with Dick and Tim for Bruce's attention, but Batman's identity is out of bounds.

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Yeah, I think that's it--I just wonder if *Jason* knows that's it. Like all the Bat-sons he really does identify as a Bat *son* who focuses on getting Dad's attention/approval. Besides, he probably thinks he has to prove himself the best son before he could be the heir to Batman.

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Besides, he probably thinks he has to prove himself the best son before he could be the heir to Batman.

Totally, the worthy successor.

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Yeah, but he's the one the most willing to take on the suit. He's been telling Bruce since Under the Hood that he's going to be Batman as he should be. And there's a scene somewhere (somewhen, I can't even remember if it was written post Jason's resurrection or not) where Bruce scolds him, along the lines of "If you want to be like me--" and Jason replies "precisely my life's goal".

I tend to think it's because he's written as having a personality more shaped by the time he became Robin. On the one hand he owes Bruce everything and the Robin he was was more Batman's than either Dick's or Tim's, on the other he already had a heavy history.

I have my doubts about Jason's self-awareness beyond "BRUCE DIDN'T LOVE ME".

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