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"Alan Moore and I once had about a six-hour argument about the Joker, back when he did comic books -- because he believed that the Batman and Joker were almost parallels that were separated at birth. Alan had a much more, a sort of attitude of moral relativism about what was good and what was evil. I took a much more arched view, because I believe that the Joker is not so much insane as satanic. He's evil incarnate, and he's so malicious that it goes beyond anything we could understand. That's what's so terrifying about him, is that he simply wants to do as much harm and damage as he possibly can." - Frank Miller

Honestly not sure what to make of this. It doesn't really feel like a Joker story and it ends... well, see for yourself.








Date: 2016-06-15 09:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
i don't know... feels Jokery to me...

and honestly... i LIKE this batman, the few panels i have seen. that whole "I was young" thing seems like a call back to "WHORES WHORES WHORES"

Date: 2016-06-15 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] michaelhealy
I'm pretty sure that across Dark Knight Returns, Dark Knight Strikes Again and All Star Batman and Robin this Batman explicitly said, in internal monologue, that he enjoyed what he did.

Date: 2016-06-15 10:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
Stuff like this reminds me of BATMAN FOREVER. "Until one terrible morning you wake up and realize that revenge has become your whole life. And you won't know why."

Which could mean Joel Schumacher understands Batman better than Frank Miller. Huh.

Date: 2016-06-15 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daningram.insanejournal.com
Hmm.

Alan Moore wrote the Killing Joke. I doubt anyone can even name a Joker plot from Frank Miller that's not connected to Dark Knight.

I think Moore won.

Date: 2016-06-15 11:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] alicemacher
Refresh my memory please, someone: In The Dark Knight 'verse, did Bruce retire as Batman because of Jason's murder?

Date: 2016-06-16 03:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tigerkaya
Oh my god Joker is killing one of Batman's supporting character who could it.. Oh wait false alarm it's just Jason move along people nothing to see here.

Date: 2016-06-16 02:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kurenai_tenka
This is new? We're revisiting this again?

Date: 2016-06-16 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
I think my main issue with Miller's Joker is that he's not funny.

The best Jokers tend to be ones where you laugh, or at least chuckle, and then stop becuase you realized how horrible the thing you just laughed at is.

Date: 2016-06-18 01:57 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] steverodgers5
I actually found this to be a surprisingly decent issue. Though I accept that I may be a little bit biased, due to them having the yellow octave back on the batsuit once again. Rather than them retroactively making out like it never was. (As in the recoloured Killing Joke.)

But I did like that we had a relatively serious, old fashioned tale being told from Miller rather than the extreme, more absurd nonsense he's favoured in recent years. Can we have more of this Miller please?

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