Uncanny Inhumans Annual #1

[superboyprime]

"The effect of the Terrigen cloud on the world is a huge part of all of the series, and will continue to be for some time to come. It’s just such a great story generator." - Charles Soule

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[quatoria]

That - every part of that actually makes me really, really happy. I love the thought of a superhero using his powers to help his own disadvantaged community. That's something *really* inspiring.

[laughing_tree]

The comics: Grid just up and leaves the Inhumans when he feels like it.
The readers: The Inhumans are demanding who gets transformed by the cloud to join up with them and become their subjects!

[long_silence]

Black Bolt did release the roving death clouds because he wanted a bigger Inhuman army. Apparently generations of eugenics had wiped out certain powers that they may need against some ill defined threat, so he whipped up a bomb to force innocent people who have nothing to do with the Inhumans all over the world to get powers or die.

Plus it helps that Grid has a family to go back to. Inferno's mother was killed while she was defenseless in her cocoon, Flint's family all died because they couldn't survive the process of Terrigenesis, Iso's family disowned her when she couldn't control her powers. Medusa took scared and vulnerable kids who'd lost family and whose lives had been irrevocably changed by the mists, and indoctrinated them into joining her cause only showing them the nice and socially acceptable view of Inhuman culture and society, using them as child soldiers to fight her enemies.

And to be fair the X-men have been doing exactly that since Xavier first picked up his original students.

[daningram.insanejournal.com]

I wouldn't say that the X-Men did the same as the Inhumans. They never caused the powers of their fellow mutants to emerge against their will, the threat they recruit against is a very real one that would kill fellow mutants out of hand.

Without the X-guys, mutants would have no one to fight for them. Unlike the Inhumans, they don't have a joint nation, organized military, what have you.

Mutants need the X-Men, for all their flaws. Xavier brought mutants together to protect them and humans, as well as train.

Medusa recruited Nu-Inhumans for public relations.

So yeah, by in large, the Inhumans can go screw ;)

[obsidianwolf]

I agree with you about the differences with the X-men situation but I'm not willing to agree that Medusa recruited the nuhumans for public relations.

Remember the inhumans almost seem to worship blood lineage so it makes perfect sense that they'd consider all these new folks with enough inhuman blood to survive encountering their sacred death gas and gain powers would be seen as already belonging to them. Especially the ones that gain useful powers being given positions of authority and prestige since that's how it works for the inhumans themselves with those lucky enough to remain human looking or gain really useful powers moving up in the world while those poor souls who end up deformed with no useful powers end up living in slums with the former slaves and treated as dead by their former friends.

[laughing_tree]

"all these new folks with enough inhuman blood to survive encountering their sacred death gas and gain powers would be seen as already belonging to them."

I direct everyone to my comment from the beginning of this thread. Thank you for proving my point.

[obsidianwolf]

I said they consider them belonging to them not that they'd force them to stay there's a difference.

Most of the time if someone chooses to leave they'll let them go.

ETA: Or in other words they consider any inhuman automatically their subject but if they don't want to join or they want to leave they'll usually let them.

[laughing_tree]

In what sense is there ownership if the person's autonomy is not infringed in any way?

[obsidianwolf]

A perfect example of how the inhumans automatically assume any nuhuman is now a subject of the royal family was in DAnte's first appearance. He was actually scolded by some of the inhumans present for not showing his queen proper respect. Before he even knew inhumans had a queen.

A similar moment is how Medusa handled that mess in Ironman when she unilaterally decided a person's crime meant they were no longer ever going to be allowed to see thier surviving family again.

Sure Grid is free to leave without any issues but more than likely the inhumans still consider him one of them. So personally I'd be really interested to see what the out come would be if a situation ever comes up where he has to choose between his two families.

Of course that's one of the failings of the inhumans titles IMO Marvel has a potential cavalcade of stories focused on the potential class between the old inhuman ways and the influx of folks from all over the world and they simply aren't really doing anything with it.

[laughing_tree]

I wouldn't say the difference is what you're making it out to be. Other than Blackbolt, who was forced out of power, the Inhumans don't force transformation on anyone either. And the X-Men have never, as far as I know, offered mutant-power suppression tech to anyone. They'll offer ruby quartz visors and training but not that. And they treated the cessation of new mutants (M-Day) as something very much in need of fixing. Trying to bring mutation back into the world also causes people to develop powers -- some of which are terrible curses -- against their will.

Also, the Nuhumans face very real threats if left alone, like people who try to exploit them, whether it be criminal groups like AIM or evil Inhumans like Lash. Some governments are even after them. Plus, a lot of them have powers that make them dangerous, to themselves or others, without training. So bringing them into the fold, in many cases, does make them safer.

[obsidianwolf]

Blackbolt isn't the only royal to force a transformation Gorgon forced his daughter through the mists several times against her will and it was perfectly acceptable in inhuman society. I highly doubt Alecto was the only inhuman ever forced through the mists by their parents. Most of the inhumans probably don't like how it was done but they probably aren't loosing any sleep over their numbers growing.

Mutant suppression tech is probably not handed out because we have no idea what long term effects of it may be and two most of it was designed by folks out to kill mutants and if the x-men reverse engineer it and make it affordable enough for them to produce for any mutant who wants it then odds are anti mutant bigots are going to then do the same to what the x-men created. We've also seen that it doesn't really do anything for physical mutations so all you'd be doing for those folks is turning off any extra abilities their non human traits give them.

Rather or not the mutants should have just accepted going extinct after M-day is actually an interesting question that should have been explored but it isn't surprising they'd try to reverse it since it wasn't a natural phenomenon but instead a mentally unbalanced woman's vengeful strike back at her father.

[icon_uk]

the Inhumans don't force transformation on anyone either

I'd argue that point rather strongly, their society is based on Terrigenesis, and children seem to be indoctorinated into the belief that Terrigenesis is something they should aspire to go through, whether they would actually benefit from it or not.

[laughing_tree]

Fair point. I meant in terms of Nuhumans, because the discussion at that point was about them and their recruitment.

[thehood]

Inferno still has his sister, no?

[long_silence]

Yeah but their house burned down in the fight against Lash so it's not like either of them have anywhere to go back to.

Plus Gabby just had her little blue baby, if they left they'd be homeless and they'd have a newborn to take care of.

[long_silence]

This seems kinda short sighted. He's made thousands of people completely dependent on him. What happens to the electricity in those neighborhoods if Grid dies?

He's made an enemy out of the wood dude, he's made enemies while he lived on the RIV. What happens if the Inhumans request his help during the upcoming conflict against the X-men? Will those neighborhoods just not get any electricity?

[icon_uk]

Presumably, he can now at least start to help them not rely on him for the power and to seek a more regular power supply, the way most people would, but they'll be doing it from a position of having a regular pwoer suplpy whilst they do.

And also presumably, he'll just decline the request for help.

He's not a soldier, nor should he be treated as one. The Inhumans have no real right to ask him to fight anyone or anything if he doesn't want to.