REPOST: ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN #644 Sacrifice epilogue

[starwolf_oakley]

Repost time! ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN #644 is an epilogue to SACRIFICE, where Clark talks to Lois about Diana killing Maxwell Lord. Batman is in a flashback.



This is when Superman thought Pete Ross was Ruin. It turned out Ruin was Professor Emil Hamilton who thought Superman's presence on Earth would eventually damage the sun... in 4.5 billion years.



Lois wears a thong? Awesome!



Lois has a great "Oh, he is not going to like this, but I have to say it" face.



You can't cross the line. Because then you can't uncross it.



Later in this issue Zatanna says "I have wiped the memories of so many of the League's enemies. I've tried to change evil men to good ones. I've abused people's minds. And I've done it to one friend too many already."

Note she's not saying "Because Hawkman told me to" or anything like that.

Have I said I'm glad IDENTITY CRISIS wasn't part of the Nu52? Because I am.

Comments

[remial]

damage the sun in 4.5 BILLION years? really?
for being a super genius, Emil sounds really f*cking stupid.

[q99]

Yea, it was some serious character derailment.

[dr_archeville]

Seriously! I mean, even ignoring that most scientists who study such things predict that our Sun would become a red giant in 4-5 billion years (and at the very least engulfing Mercury and Venus and boiling off Earth’s seas), several DC comics –- like the Legion of Super-Heroes -– have shown that in a mere thousand years or so, humanity will have moved beyond Earth and colonized several planets (so the loss of Earth as a viable habitat, while sad, wouldn’t be the end of humanity).

[q99]

I like this. And yea, Lois would side with Diana with her background and views. She's against killing, but not to an absolute. She more than knows Wonder Woman is a good person, she *trusts* Diana, she knows the circumstances close enough- Lois would've done the same.

The Lois and Wonder Woman friendship post puts a lot of context into this.



And this is part of why the lack of resolution bugs me- this was shaping up so interesting. I at this point was assuming WW would likely budge (simply because DC's pretty hard core on the not-kill rule), but stuff like this made it seem like in the end Superman would with the organic views of supporting characters, and in the end... they kinda do in that they just drop the argument. Wonder Woman spends One Year Later reflecting over things (but keeps her stance), and by that point they're all best buds again, Sacrifice is water under the bridge, without hashing out the differences in kill policies.

[mrstatham]

Yeah, we can thank the.. The kind-of laziness of Infinite Crisis for that. Like, with Maxwell Lord, Diana is inclined by the narrative to kill him. Fine. With IC's opening pages, she tries the same move on Mongul like it's a standard thing for her now, which just shows how poor Johns grasp of things was. The rest of the event is no better. We have the first half of the book screeching about how terrible the Dork Age of Comics became - especially with the toll taken on Batman -and how pure and great the Silver Age was, only for E2!Superman to get punked and the shit beaten out of him by two previously good characters, seemingly just to wipe any idea of 'we need to change' aside with 'things were just as bad elsewhere', even though it took the mutilation of characters to do that.

[q99]

Johns really didn't get her one bit- he also thought she was self-righteous, when her thing is treating everyone like an equal.

-We have the first half of the book screeching about how terrible the Dork Age of Comics became - especially with the toll taken on Batman -and how pure and great the Silver Age was, only for E2!Superman to get punked and the shit beaten out of him by two previously good characters, seemingly just to wipe any idea of 'we need to change' aside with 'things were just as bad elsewhere', even though it took the mutilation of characters to do that.-

Yea, they *really* lacked self-awareness in doing what they thought was a 'take that' to the iron age, only to embrace it's worst tendencies.

[starwolf_oakley]

That part of IC was "fixed" in the Trade Paperback. As were lots of other word balloons. (The big Battle of Metropolis has actual color this time!)

"I was just going to pin him to the floor."

[lbd_nytetrayn]

Damage it... how?

Are solar panels bad now, too? Is it time to invest in nuclear, the new clean way of the future?