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She heard a sound outside her tent.
She opened the flap.
Batman appeared before her.
" Dr. Isley. "
She tried to drive him away. He vanished.
She asked if he was here to take her in.
" No. "
She caught him.
" I'm *unh*.. I'm here to ask for your help. "

(The green's because Batman's wearing his stealth rig.)

(Batman's countermeasure did not wholly eliminate Freeze's bacteria.)

The men after Batman and Ivy closed in on them.
Ivy pressed Batman on something she'd realized, looking at the sample he'd given her.
" .. she's already dead, isn't she? ' Lilly. ' Just looking at the worm, I can see she must be. The speed of its growth.. I'd say around thirteen hours.
" She died, and they likely incinerated her just as you arrived. I'm right, aren't I? "
" .. "

(The countdown flashbacks started from thirteen, with Lilly's smoking skull.)

(In this, Ivy's control is call-and-response.)
Batman and Ivy fought off the apparent Blackhawks (the former, asking who they were, got only their insignia as an answer).
Flame from their weapons during the fight caught Ivy's tree.
Watching it burn, she told Batman to leave.
" I'm sorry. " he said, peeling the wax off his lips.
" Wax lips?
" So why did you fight for me then? "

" Wait. "

(Her vines are handy things.)

(Pencils, inks, and colors're by Tula Lotay.
Pagecount's ~7 of 22 from All-Star Batman #7.)
She opened the flap.
Batman appeared before her.
" Dr. Isley. "
She tried to drive him away. He vanished.
She asked if he was here to take her in.
" No. "
She caught him.
" I'm *unh*.. I'm here to ask for your help. "

(The green's because Batman's wearing his stealth rig.)

(Batman's countermeasure did not wholly eliminate Freeze's bacteria.)

The men after Batman and Ivy closed in on them.
Ivy pressed Batman on something she'd realized, looking at the sample he'd given her.
" .. she's already dead, isn't she? ' Lilly. ' Just looking at the worm, I can see she must be. The speed of its growth.. I'd say around thirteen hours.
" She died, and they likely incinerated her just as you arrived. I'm right, aren't I? "
" .. "

(The countdown flashbacks started from thirteen, with Lilly's smoking skull.)

(In this, Ivy's control is call-and-response.)
Batman and Ivy fought off the apparent Blackhawks (the former, asking who they were, got only their insignia as an answer).
Flame from their weapons during the fight caught Ivy's tree.
Watching it burn, she told Batman to leave.
" I'm sorry. " he said, peeling the wax off his lips.
" Wax lips?
" So why did you fight for me then? "

" Wait. "

(Her vines are handy things.)

(Pencils, inks, and colors're by Tula Lotay.
Pagecount's ~7 of 22 from All-Star Batman #7.)
I'm really glad that they are adding complexity back to Ivy
Date: 2017-09-09 10:33 am (UTC)Something I've disliked about the Harley Quinn appearances with Ivy is that to me they have really defanged the character and reduced one of Batman's most complex villains in to this easy-to-like character.
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Date: 2017-09-09 11:56 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2017-09-09 03:57 pm (UTC)I don't mean how much of her character was changed to be more sympathetic, but more how much audiences shifted from finding her character traits character traits of a villain to "why is she supposed to be a villain, again?" if i make any sense.
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Date: 2017-09-09 04:24 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2017-09-10 12:57 am (UTC)But then in that issue Batman also uttered the immortal line "I was thinking of how cute Poison Ivy is-- I hate to put such a beautiful doll behind bars!"
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Date: 2017-09-10 01:49 am (UTC)In that context, it makes sense Batman would say that line in that specific comic, the comic wasn't trying to show feminism in a positive light (intentionally or unintentionally is to be argued)
ETA: there is also the fact it was written by a guy in the sixties. while male feminists are not something "new", I doubt Robert Kanigher was the most versed in feminist ideology and philosophy.
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Date: 2017-09-09 04:30 pm (UTC)I remember one elseworld story where Ivy was imprisoned as criminally insane just because she was a suffragette. Can't remember the name though.
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Date: 2017-09-10 12:37 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-09-10 12:51 am (UTC)Later versions, especially after the Gaiman Black Orchid series (Which was, I think, the first to tie her story into Alec "Swamp Thing" Holland and Jason "Floronic Man" Woodrue) and BTAS made her more interested in the plants vs humanity side of things (with her siding with the former over the latter every time).
From there the line between "human hating plant obsessive" and "eco-acrtivist/terrorist" became a little more blurred, leaving writers more options to explore a more complicated character.
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Date: 2017-09-10 01:53 am (UTC)still, I still wonder if the "feminism" part of the character was something we once were supposed to see in a negative light and that changing because it stopped having the same connotation and became a positive trait.
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Date: 2017-09-11 04:35 pm (UTC)The 2 that were touted by most members as the sexiest were Selina and Talia with Talia coming out by a head (hahaha?). The reasons given were that Talia and Selina were most in-line with Batman's mission, and the reason that Talia was "better" was because she would allow Bruce to place his mission first and her second. Selina came in second because "she would never play second-fiddle." And I think that Harley came third because of how devoted she was to "Mistah J." What I remember most though was that Ivy and Barbara Gordon were often rated the lowest. Babs was often called a host of derogatory names and criticized for calling Bruce out from time-to-time. Ivy was dismissed as a "stupid lesbian." So the 2 characters on the list who were the most independent or removed from having sexy times with Bruce and having motivations outside of the men in their lives were seen as the least desirable.
So it would not surprise me at all if the feminism existent in Ivy's stories turned off a lot of folks.
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Date: 2017-09-09 04:18 pm (UTC)(Sorry :p)
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Date: 2017-09-10 07:53 pm (UTC)