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Look, pretty Diana!



For those who're interested, Chapter 17 of When Wondy was Awesome (in which Veronica Cale is Not A Nice Person and Diana writes a book) is now up at my journal. I can't put it here, because while each individual chapter is actually not so bad, the Rucka set as a whole is in flagrant violation of the 1/3 rule, and there was no way I could trim it down from the 1/2 issue format of our old LJ incarnation without shredding it. But it's good stuff, so go over there anyway. ^_^


Offered, for once, without comment.

From Rucka:




From Simone:

Date: 2009-05-16 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icon_uk.insanejournal.com
Ooooh, Cheetah going Manx, that's gonna hurt!

Date: 2009-05-16 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitty_tc_69.insanejournal.com
OWWW!!!

The catgirl in me is wincing and squirming just looking at that.

Date: 2009-05-16 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fungo_squiggly.insanejournal.com
AND SO...


Image (http://s83.photobucket.com/albums/j289/ThreshholdLurker/?action=view&current=FCResistPage014-1.jpg)

Date: 2009-05-16 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] batcookies.insanejournal.com
Except Final Crisis happens BEFORE Rise of the Olympian, hence the lack of Batman and Superman on the JLA.

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Date: 2009-05-16 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottyquick.insanejournal.com
Completely unrelated, but I could have sworn on SD1.0, somebody was interested in seeing some Dinah from the Grell run. Was that you, or am I hallucinating?

Date: 2009-05-16 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fungo_squiggly.insanejournal.com
Returning to the subject of "Barbara's tail gets cut off all the time, why would she be so scared," perhaps she's more worried that she's going to get dropped on her head in that position.

Date: 2009-05-16 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gargoylekitty.insanejournal.com
Idk. While she's definitely too frightened for the scene, I do think that just because she's had her tail removed before doesn't mean she's just going to lie back and accept it. You don't remember pain though you definitely recall that you don't want it to happened again. If you've had your arm broken(or even something smaller like your fingers) a couple times in your past, despite it being fixed up every time, you're still going to fight before letting it happen again.

Although I'm wondering if her tail regrowth has a solid reason like 'her Cheetah form is removed of damage when she switches back to human form' or if it's just one of those comic things that never sticks.

Date: 2009-05-16 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] box_in_the_box.insanejournal.com
... Only semi-related, but ... is there any in-canon reason given for why Cheetah now wears a costume that seriously makes it look like she's exposing her crotch to the world?

Every time I see it, I think T. Catt designed it for the CattHouse Studios Erotic Earth Jam.

Date: 2009-05-16 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] box_in_the_box.insanejournal.com
[...] a middle-aged British professor [...]

... Who now dresses like a Suicide Girl, which, if they actually bothered to acknowledge this characterization discrepancy, could kind of be fun, depending on how willing they were to poken fun at themselves:

"Yes, Wonder Woman, when I transform into the Cheetah, it transforms my normally academic personality into something straight out of a teenage male virgin's fanfic fantasy, which is why I am now calling myself ... THE COUGAR!!! Oh, and say hello to Chad, my bare-chested 19-year-old henchman. He's a former student of mine, who's now majoring in bodysurfing at UCLA."

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Date: 2009-05-16 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chthonicspirit.insanejournal.com
She was originally shown wearing them in her human form, where of course they just look like pants with a cheetah crotch. But then artists started showing her wearing them in her Cheetah form as well, either because they didn't realize what it looked like, or possibly because they did.

Date: 2009-05-16 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] batcookies.insanejournal.com
I suspect they designed the costume based on the first issue's script, which made it seem like Barbara was stuck as a human full-time.

Date: 2009-05-16 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] box_in_the_box.insanejournal.com
So, implying ... ease of access, so to speak?

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Date: 2009-05-16 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khamelea.insanejournal.com
I'll never understand why they didn't just switch the cheetah pattern with a different pattern (or even just a different appropriate color scheme.) They could have basically kept the costume the same that way.

I'm sure there's something vaguely Pre-Colombianish or otherwise related to the Cheetah's background (wasn't the god that granted her her powers more than just a cat-god?) that could work for a stripe like that.

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Date: 2009-05-16 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foxhack.insanejournal.com
Fanservice for the incredibly small amount of straight furry readers out there, like me?

(I kid, I kid.)

Date: 2009-05-16 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenmask.insanejournal.com
I do like it when WW wears not-the-usual.

Those attached bits of flag look particularly awesome, actually.

Date: 2009-05-16 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jlroberson.insanejournal.com
You know, her tail is part of her spine, if she's really like a cat. I didn't like WW before and I like her less now.

In fact, here's the opinion of a couple of superheroines I DO like, Fire and Mary Marvel, and I'm glad someone finally said it:

Image

(And I hope someone makes an icon out of WW in the last panel.)

BTW, it's been a long time--was that Genocide thing ever worked out?

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Date: 2009-05-16 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nevermore999.insanejournal.com
Minerva's had her tail cut off a bazillion times, as was noted earlier in this thread. And she'd just kidnapped and was currently holding Diana's close friend at an undisclosed location, using monster to torture said friend and put her in a coma (quite possibly killing her). She'd also just used the monster to kill a fuckton of people. (Not to mention the whole story arc is kind of about Diana kind of losing it)

And it could well have been bluffing. We'll never know if Diana went that far.

If I was Diana? It would be a hell of a lot worse than losing a tail (and cats have lost tails and come out of it not paralyzed so I don't really see the significance of the tail being part of the spine? It hurts a lot. Boohoo. A lot of people are dead or worse thanks to this woman. That hurts a hell of a lot more)

But, hey, you want strawmen reasons to hate Diana, go ahead.

And the Genocide arc will be over in two issues.

Not touching the Superbuddies thing. Pretty much everyone was OOC in that mini.

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Date: 2009-05-16 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icon_uk.insanejournal.com
I confess I rather like Beetle saying to Gold "The merchandise will be silent". I don't want to know why he is saying it, because I'm bringing my own context and it's rather lovely! :)

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Date: 2009-05-16 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kagome654.insanejournal.com
I'll be honest, I tend to like Wonder Woman MORE when she's written like this, I just find it much more entertaining (much like the 'Out of my way, sperm bank!' characterization), but then I tend to go for characters that are difficult to get along with.

But it is so not proper Diana behavior. She honestly strikes me as the most accepting and least condescending member of the Trinity (I don't think Superman would intentionally condescend to anyone, but he still reads that way sometimes) and the most likely to support the Superbuddies (when they're not being totally irresponsible and ridiculous).* So yeah...Wonder Woman is a lot of things, but a bitch ain’t one of them.

*Though I’ll defer to one of the Wondy experts if my interpretation of her is totally off, I’m no expert. She could actually be a completely judgmental harpy and I just haven't read those stories

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Date: 2009-05-16 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trueredorion.insanejournal.com
So Gail's Diana is still a massive hypocrite. Good to know.

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