*Main post* 30 Days of Scans! Day 4! Character you would bring back from the Dead

[benicio127]

Soooo it looks like we fumbled a little on Day 3, however, there is a *main* post here for Day 3 for those of you who don't have/want to post scans or just want to make a few comments about your favourite/least favourite *insert specific meme day here.*
So just to make it clearer for everyone, we'll add a "main" post to the Topic Headline so you know where to go, and/or you can look for my user name, shelleymaree or one of the mods. We'll try and post in the morning and/or after midnight Eastern Standard Time. But if you get in there before us, even more awesome! Glad to see some eager beavers.

Today is Character You would bring back from the dead day. Mine's under the cut. So S_D'ers, who's yours?





I'm a little pissy about this one in particular, but...
LIAN HARPER. It really bothers me that DC killed a child just to give a character more angst. Particularly a female child for a male protagonist to be able to grieve. That’s basically what’s been done here. It’s a cliche story that’s been done to — pardon the bad use of cliche saying — death.

I get changing up the status quo, I really do. From a storytelling perspective, it’s important. You don’t want these characters to get “stagnant.” But this entire Rise of Arsenal thing just started out from a bad place and only got worse.

That coupled with the piss-poor job of the break-up of Ollie and Dinah (after everything they’ve been through their marriage is just done because Ollie kills the person who kills his granddaughter? Give me a break. And I hate how it made Dinah look like a bitch.) And while I really do like Dinah and Ollie, I think this post by DCWomenKickingAss explains the problem with the series best.

The message I’m getting from DC is that kids in comics suck and marriages in comics suck. (And I know Ollie and Dinah have issues. Oh boy, do they have issues. But they’ve also always managed to work through those issues and seemed to come out stronger until now. And I don’t know one married person who won’t say they’ve been through major ups and downs with their spouse. But I kinda feel like the Dinah/Ollie ship has sailed for me and that makes me sad).

This really bothers me on a personal level because I put a lot of value on marriage. And I think that Dinah would, too. But anyways, digressing from the original topic…

What Lian Harper’s death ultimately says to me is children make things boring, so let’s get rid of them. This isn’t the first time it’s happened, either. Selina Kyle’s child, Helena? Gone. Dinah’s adopted daughter, Sin? Gone.

So rather than automatically kill them off or get rid of them because they’re children and they weigh people down, how about thinking outside of the freaking box for once, DC?



From Outsiders 44

Runner Ups

Kid Devil because I love his relationship with Rose.
Big Barda/Scott Free
Nightcrawler

suggested tags: series: 30 days of scans, char: speedy/arsenal/roy harper, char: speedy/mia dearden, char: lian harper, title: outsiders

Comments

[perletwo]

Oh, Lian. *whimper*

My trouble is, I'm pretty much a DC girl, and DC's been on a Bring Out Yer Dead kick the last couple years. Most everybody I might've picked is already back, if only temporarily, in one form or another.

So I decided to go with this fine fella, who never really had a fair shot:





Countdown brought him to life in Week 15 (hate that backwards counting thing on CD) and killed him off two Weeks later. So much wasted potential, especially when you consider he was traveling the multiverse with Jason Todd, of all people!

[jaybee3]

The Jokester was literally the only good thing to come out of Countdown. Just another example of how that series turned what could have been a good idea into something horribly terribly bad.

And killing him means we never got a Jokester vs Joker confrontation! Or regular DCU Harley meaning a good version of her Mistah J!

Wasted, wasted.

[pyrotwilight]

Mr. Good J was awesome. ;_;

[kamino_neko]

I choose to believe Jokester doesn't need to be brought back from the dead, as his death was one of the aspects of Countdown that didn't actually happen. And until it's referenced in canon, there's no reason not to believe that!

[shadowpsykie]

and Jason actually LIKED him. and actually got pissed when he was killed.

heh also took me a second to realize his hair and clothing are a reverse of the Joker costume :)

[benicio127]

I don't know if Jason liked him as much as he.... tolerated his presence. XD

[retro_nouveau]

Yes! Motto! I never fell in love so hard, so fast before the Jokester came along. I hope kamino_neko is right and Countdown doesn't count.

[psychopathicus_rex]

Jason's expression in that last panel is a thing of beauty and a joy to behold. He's like 'whubbadawhubbadaWHAT?!' Classic.