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http://www.shortpacked.com/
On a similar note, apparently Starfire's bikini was supposed to be transparent.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/23/dancing-with-the-starfires/
That's for a future Cringeworthy Comicbook Moments thing, I guess.
Working on a Casstoon, should be up tomorrow or Wednesday.
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Date: 2011-09-26 07:01 pm (UTC)Three supporting characters, who have been twisted out of recognition and seem to have had the things people liked best about them taken away. Yeah, seems like a genius idea.
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Date: 2011-09-26 07:43 pm (UTC)I mean - a lot of women watched Teen Titans and read Scott Pilgrim or manga. So as they like the characters and like sequential art, they're a great potential audience for a Teen Titans comic, yes? But... no.
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Date: 2011-09-27 03:10 am (UTC)But basically it's a bunch of guys who don't understand their market in a state of panic.
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Date: 2011-09-26 07:51 pm (UTC)When Jason and Roy are escaping from that prison in the jeep, Starfire flies down to them and says "Is there anything else I can do, Jason?" and Jason asks her if she'll take care of the other soldiers and tanks for them, she says "Certainly. I'll see you soon?" and Jason tells her that he can't wait.
Then we turn the page and see her in a bikini, telling us that she can't tell Jason and Roy apart. People are making so much of a fuss about Starfire's characterisation on the beach and her supposedly forgetting her time with the Teen Titans. That doesn't bother me, it's a reboot, as far as I'm concerned, we know nothing about Starfire's past and things that have changed. The thing that bothers me is that she goes from being genuinely excited about seeing Jason again, to not knowing who Jason is in the space of a page.
I wonder if this is Lobdell acting out because he didn't want Starfire in this book.
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Date: 2011-09-26 07:53 pm (UTC)You've described her as being super-confident, while at the same time being submissive and eager-to-please Jason.
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Date: 2011-09-26 08:00 pm (UTC)The Shortpacked strip is right about how this comic will be lucky to crack 100,000 in sales, but come on, barring an all-star creative team, that would have been the case no matter what.
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Date: 2011-09-26 08:46 pm (UTC)And also how DC is alienating their female readers and could easily get these much sought-after "new readers" by simply not producing crappy comics.
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Date: 2011-09-26 08:00 pm (UTC)THAT being said, I feel the new starfire is different than the old starfire (though not in leagues).
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Date: 2011-09-26 09:04 pm (UTC)This one is alienating to fans of both incarnations.
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Date: 2011-09-26 08:36 pm (UTC)*slips on blue ring*
What if there is something seriously wrong with Starfire in story? Is that possible? Can she be mind-wiped and emoti-blocked? Can we make it so that we get a tearful acceptance of emotion somewhere down the road and a liberal sprinkling of the word "Glorious"?
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Please?
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Date: 2011-09-26 11:27 pm (UTC)If Roy and Jason are aware that Kory is acting really out of character compared to how she usually is, and is displaying evidence of amnesia because of some kind of physical and/or emotional trauma or some evil meddling, they should probably be showing restraint when she starts propositioning them for cheap sex for no apparent reason.
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Date: 2011-09-26 08:40 pm (UTC)And even though that transparent bikini really would have drawn my scorn and resent, I am glad he posted it on his deviantart and that it sparked some very amusing fanart in turn.
Honestly, I think the issue needs to start and end with a few pages of Jason and Roy being nude (or mostly nude, as in tiny stuff just barely covering them). I don't really care if it's for no reason or not. It'd be a great way to start redeeming for what happened to Kory. The comic is all about redemption after all, right?
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Date: 2011-09-27 04:45 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-09-27 04:08 pm (UTC)... BUT I'm basically the target audience for this reboot - I'm sort of familiar with canon for some characters. I wanted to read comics in the past, but was intimidated by the amount of backstory I'd missed. I watched maybe 10 episodes of the Teen Titans TV series ever, and the only character in Red Hood that I'm familiar with at all is Jason.
I liked the book, but I never knew or cared about the old version of Starfire. I'm perfectly content to start anew.
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Date: 2011-09-27 08:27 pm (UTC)"Everyone knows Batgirl is Barbara Gordon, and sitting at a computer in a wheelchair isn't sexy, so... she's Batgirl! Young and sexy!"
"Amanda Waller recently appeared in a movie, young and sexy, so young and sexy it is!"
"Starfire was watched by millions in the Teen Titans cartoon... but she's not very sexy, is she? Practically no breasts at all. No, no. We don't change her at all." "Hey, wait a second, I have an idea here... it's a little outside the box... do you think we can make her even sexier in the reboot?" "I like the way you think."
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Date: 2011-09-28 12:42 pm (UTC)(just putting this com' out here)
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