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Fury Of Firestorm The Nuclear Men #1 has two distinctions.

1. It has the longest title of the reboot.

2. The last page is arguably dumber than the last page of Batman: The Dark Knight.

One page under the cut.

WE ARE FURIOUS FURY THE FURY OF FURY

Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque; also, Voodoo #1 was surprisingly good. It definitely did "sexy" better than either Catwoman #1 or Red Hood and the Outlaws #1 . . . not that that would be hard in the latter case.

Date: 2011-09-28 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
...I don't get it, what's stupid about this? We kinda knew about Fury for a while.

Date: 2011-09-28 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] nemryn
Everything's better with Kirby Krackle.

Date: 2011-09-28 11:58 pm (UTC)
leikomgwtfbbq: (*applause*)
From: [personal profile] leikomgwtfbbq
My boyfriend just recently introduced me to Kirby Krackle. I love that band XD Especially the song about crisis crossover comics. RELEVANCE!

Date: 2011-09-29 08:13 am (UTC)
espanolbot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] espanolbot
I love the cereal with that name too.

Date: 2011-09-29 12:27 am (UTC)
valtyr: (wear an eyepatch and smoke a cigar)
From: [personal profile] valtyr
Fury is a dumb name (though not as dumb as One Face),

HDU. Samuel L Jackson is going to come down upon you with great vengeance and furious anger.

Date: 2011-09-29 03:42 am (UTC)
pyrotwilight: (Default)
From: [personal profile] pyrotwilight
Plus, you know, Wonderwoman's daughter.

Date: 2011-09-29 05:04 am (UTC)
pyrotwilight: (Default)
From: [personal profile] pyrotwilight
...I don't see how a name can really be bad (short of an inappropriate one or plain silly). Aren't all names equal in the end?

Date: 2011-09-29 07:17 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
What? Why? Fury is an emotion, it's no more a silly name than, say "Hope", or even something like "Doomsday", and is a good descriptor of this creatures mindset.

Date: 2011-09-29 08:24 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Out of genuine curiosity, what is your opinion of names like;
Flash?
Superman?
Hawkman?
Cyclops? (Who has two eyes after all)
and even Firestorm?

Date: 2011-09-29 04:42 am (UTC)
sianmink: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sianmink
He could also use some pants.

Date: 2011-09-29 08:26 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Well, depending on how far they retract that might explain the bad mood.

Date: 2011-09-28 10:56 pm (UTC)
fifthie: tastes the best (Default)
From: [personal profile] fifthie
I'd rather have read the Clevinger comic.

Date: 2011-09-29 09:09 pm (UTC)
biod: Cute Galactus (Default)
From: [personal profile] biod
Much as I normally like Simone's work I would have gladly replaced her with Clevenger. The man is such a perfect fit for the concept it's tragic.
Maybe a mini someday?

Date: 2011-09-28 10:57 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
I actually kinda liked this issue.

also yeah...i really thought Voodoo was going tobe a surprise... mainly because yes it was going for sexy, but i also felt very meta. it felt... more... artful i guess. like it was sexy, but there was a point to it... if that at all makes sense (and i know it probably won't i;m fighting a cold here...)

Date: 2011-09-28 11:03 pm (UTC)
glimmung: (Default)
From: [personal profile] glimmung
What place does Voodoo have in DCU now? I guess they will work the Daemonites into continuity now.

Date: 2011-09-28 11:27 pm (UTC)
capt_satellite: (Default)
From: [personal profile] capt_satellite
The needle will only hurt for a minute....there! Was that so bad?.....No, don't struggle...the restraints will only make it hurt worse.....there you go....a few issues and it will all be over....quiet there......just like going to sleep.....................................................................................................................................................................OK, take his vitals.........................Ok. Call it. Time of death, Sep. 28th, 2011 04:44 pm. Take him down to the morgue till the next reboot.................What? I don't know! Yes, I know it's crowded......fine! Put him between Atom Master and The Atomic Knigh. Or we can ship the whole dam lot of themt we can just mail them Bulk Media Rate to Limbo....you know, where all the old characters go.....the ones nobody cares for anymore........

OK, we're clear, and.................

Date: 2011-09-28 11:07 pm (UTC)
capt_satellite: (Default)
From: [personal profile] capt_satellite
.......NEXT!!!!!!!!!!

Date: 2011-09-28 11:11 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Have to disagree with you on this, aside from the villains being rather OTT in a sort of "Aren't we're ruthless bastards? All that we haven't done this issue is stomp on fluffy kittens. Mwahh-ha-ha-ha!" I enjoyed it.

Yes, Fury is clearly not the brightest proton in the nucleus, but with showing only one page taken out of context, I think you're missing out showing that that's sort of the point. He's the insanely dangerous combination of the two Firestorms (and given his personality, ) He's what they'll both want to avoid becoming, but until they know about their nature, he's going to be a threat within them.

Date: 2011-09-28 11:12 pm (UTC)
mullon: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mullon
I doubt it's going to last longer than an issue.

Date: 2011-09-28 11:51 pm (UTC)
darkblade: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darkblade
DC said that all the launch titles are getting at least six issues.

Date: 2011-09-29 01:39 am (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
*Crosses fingers* C'mon, Demon Knights! Make it waaay past 6!

Date: 2011-09-29 12:15 pm (UTC)
ext_197528: (Default)
From: [identity profile] kurenai-tenka.livejournal.com
Oooh yes please! :D

Date: 2011-09-29 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
bets on which ones last ONLY six issues?

Date: 2011-09-29 12:15 pm (UTC)
ext_197528: (Default)
From: [identity profile] kurenai-tenka.livejournal.com
Outlaws? ._. OMAC? Hawk and Dove?

Date: 2011-09-29 12:12 am (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
-also, Voodoo #1 was surprisingly good. It definitely did "sexy" better than either Catwoman #1 or Red Hood and the Outlaws #1 . . . not that that would be hard in the latter case.
-

This doesn't shock me, the writer also handles the surprisingly-tasteful Witchblade.

Date: 2011-09-29 06:18 am (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Funnily enough, Marz is actually wrapping up his run on Witchblade right now. I found it quite odd that the covers we've seen for Voodoo have her powers looking oddly similar to those of the character leading the book he's known for.

Date: 2011-09-29 01:50 pm (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
I don't think it's 'funnily enough' so much as he's taking on this one because he is done with Witchblade and it's a fairly natural fit :)

Date: 2011-09-29 12:24 am (UTC)
thanekos: Seiga Kaku from Touhou 13, shadowed. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thanekos
Well, at least they didn't turn into a Brimstone.

But they should totally fight one.

Date: 2011-09-29 12:33 am (UTC)
nezchan: Toony version of me, more or less (Default)
From: [personal profile] nezchan
I'll be honest, I'm not that impressed. The story tended more toward the confusing than the intriguing, and the villains seemed to largely be evil-for-evil's-sake more than anything else. The boys' personal conflict seemed really awkward and some of it came out of nowhere for me.

All in all, the whole thing came off as haphazard and rushed. I doubt I'll be getting #2.

Date: 2011-09-30 03:07 am (UTC)
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
I couldn't find any reason Ronnie and Jason would even meet, to be honest, much less build up all this tension.

And Ronnie is now uninteresting & shallow, and Jason is self-important and insufferable. I don't think likable characters always have to be the center of a story.

But in THIS kind of story? Uh, yeah, if you want me to read #2. And won't.

Date: 2011-09-29 12:35 am (UTC)
book_of_daniel: (head crusher)
From: [personal profile] book_of_daniel
I'll try this out next month when it's 2 dollars online instead of 3...and that's only because I'm usually a big fan of Gail's.

Date: 2011-09-29 12:57 am (UTC)
silverzeo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverzeo
Another character Hulks out?

Date: 2011-09-29 01:04 am (UTC)
bluestar86: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bluestar86
This still isn't half as dumb as the last page of Batgirl.

Date: 2011-09-29 06:22 am (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Yeah, this isn't quite as bad as "You didn't push that dude out the window but you didn't stop the guy doing it, but neither did I and I'm in a better position to shoot the villain, and I'm still going to blame you" whilst Batgirl stands there uselessly going "NOESSSSS"

Date: 2011-09-29 06:25 am (UTC)
bluestar86: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bluestar86
Cass wouldn't have put up with this crap.

Date: 2011-09-29 12:17 pm (UTC)
ext_197528: (Default)
From: [identity profile] kurenai-tenka.livejournal.com
I liked how she was calling Bab's a murderer when the actual murderer was still right next to her. :P

Date: 2011-09-29 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] abriel
I hate how they have completely tossed the close friendship of Ronnie and Professor Stein.

I hate that they got rid of the "two minds, one body, one person as the driver, the other the brains" concept.

I hate how they deaged the characters.

I hate how stereotypical the villains were, to the extent that the only bad thing they didn't do was drown a litter of puppies.

I hated the stupid hulked-out...whatever that was.

In short, things better get fucking better.

Date: 2011-09-29 11:56 am (UTC)
nezchan: Toony version of me, more or less (Default)
From: [personal profile] nezchan
"...that the only bad thing they didn't do was drown a litter of puppies."

Hey, can't use up all your characterization in the first issue.

Date: 2011-09-30 03:05 am (UTC)
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
I hate what a shallow, uninteresting jerk Ronnie has been ever since Johns got ahold of him originally.

Date: 2011-09-30 08:06 am (UTC)
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
>>I hate how they have completely tossed the close friendship of Ronnie and Professor Stein.

To be fair, he is dead.

To be unfair, this is a relaunch.

PS

Date: 2011-09-30 08:07 am (UTC)
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
(By which I mean they could have brought him back.)

Date: 2011-09-29 06:35 am (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
So... More like Farcestorm?

Date: 2011-09-30 03:15 am (UTC)
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
Seems to be. I mean, they barely introduce us to this new situation when all of a sudden, THIS. This is the sort of thing that waits till at least the third issue, for god's sake.

It seems so impatient that it's completely impossible to follow. And motivation? What's that?

I'm very surprised this is Simone. Really.

Date: 2011-09-30 07:50 am (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
To be fair, Van Sciver's plotting this too, and since he's one of DC's top dogs in terms of art, Gail might just be having to play along and supply dialogue. So maybe the faster and less cohesive pace is down to him?

That said, I've never been that impressed by Gail anyway. She does nice dialogue, and I love some of her characters, especially Scandal, but her plots always seem kinda light, to me, and not very aspirational, if that makes sense? And I really wasn't impressed with the on-the-nose dialogue of Batgirl #1...

Date: 2011-09-30 07:59 am (UTC)
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
The thing is, I haven't been given any reason to give even slightly a crap about either of them. This is a new Ronnie, and I don't really know Jason. But Jason seems like a creep here--and I was a nerd picked on by jocks(and preps) in HS!--and this whole thing with Ronnie is so artificial. But this really isn't Ronnie Raymond. So they need to establish him a little more--which Conway, in just as compressed a story, managed to do way back when.

I know they're trying to reintroduce the old dynamic of the Flash/Peter dynamic flipped on its head--a jock being PICKED ON by a brainiac. (in the old comic it was some dude with sideburns) I'm just saying not a whole lot of this makes sense. I know what they're saying, but I think they don't say it well here. It's rushed, confused, and with no real hook. So what if these two guys who only just turned into Firestorms I don't know now fuse into this other thing?

It seems a few 52s have endings like this. DARK KNIGHT, HAWK & DOVE...

Date: 2011-09-30 03:03 am (UTC)
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
Well, they certainly couldn't wait to get past the setup. So they skipped it completely.

I read this. I won't be again.

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