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Some people have lives. I have comic books. I posted this earlier to my LJ, because I'm desperately trying to avoid writing some stuff for work and yes, the deadline is tomorrow. Now I'm sharing this with you, because I love you as much as Midnighter loves murder.

Some panels are NSFW!




Ok, I can't really say I'm miffed at Stormwatch – I get what they are trying to do. Apollo and Midnighter had always been a couple and had married early in The Authority run, and the writers of Stormwatch want to show us how they could become a couple; show their relationship progressing naturally from “two guys who like to kill people together” to “married with a kid”, like they would do with any straight couple. I just really miss knowing that those two are married and together, you know. D:

I killed some time by reading every issue of The Authority – spinoffs and specials included – I could get my hands on (with the exception of World's End because fuck this shit, guys) and remembering why I love them as a couple. On one hand, they are ruthless and merciless murderers (though Midnighter takes a far greater pleasure at his job than Apollo), on the other hand, they are so embarrassingly in love with each other, they are like two kittens cuddling together in a basket.

One thing I've noticed though, something I swear I never paid any attention to before, was that while Apollo and Midnighter kiss, cuddle, are shown in bed together and have their share of sexual innuendos, they never ever, not once are shown in a situation that could be described as “sexual”. The most raunchy thing they ever do is Midnighter getting an (implied) erection when tied up with Apollo. That's the very same issue that shows Angie and Jack naked and engaged in sexual act, and then shows them post coital.

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Yes, that's the most ~sexy they ever get and it's in an R-rated Lobo crossover issue, with the art so ugly it makes me cry. I'm starting to suspect that the ugly art somehow enables homosexual innuendos, because the second raunchiest thing we ever see, is accompanied with the artwork that can be only described as “making Liefeld look like a talented artist”

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I find it then really ironic that the most we ever find out about their sex life is from that Midnighter and Grifter crossover series, that was written by Chuck “I don't want no gays in them comic books, depriving them children. WHY IS NO ONE THINKING ABOUT THE CHILDREN EXCEPT FOR ME!? BTW, here is teenage Spoiler getting pregnant. You know, for kids!” Dixon. See, Midnighter is The Man here so it's ok! Fun fact: girls have cooties.

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And in the very next issue, for those who need something less subtle than the sledgehammer in the face, Grifter says it all.

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Now, those of you that know something about the subject will say “But Kirke, what about that time when Jenny was scared and wanted to sleep in their bed and Mindy was “hell no” and then he said he lost his boner?” Never happened. That scene gives me such a second hand embarrassment I refuse to acknowledge it existence. This is my post, I can do it if I want to.

Let's move on. The first time we are introduced to those two in the new Authority, they have just spent years sleeping on the street to avoid the capture. Jenny Sparks manages to convince them to give her a hand fighting Gamorra.

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And here is Midnighter introducing himself properly to the masses

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We know that DC named Apollo "Andrew" but I don't care, for me, he'll always be Bart or Ernie.

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The first time we see the signs of affections is just a few issues after this

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And then the subtext becomes text.

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Then, after Jenny Sparks dies, Apollo and Midnighter get married and adpot Jenny Q. No scans cos fugly wedding costumes are fugly.

Human On The Inside is the comic book that made me fall in love with these two. I know it has its problems, like the fact that 90% of the time everyone are holding a idiotball and have amnesia at the same time. But this scene... this scene alone melted me. HOTI is the first TPB I've ever bought.

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Alas, it's not always fun and games in the authorityland and when Danny kisses Midnighter (who forgets that he can fight... eh... idtiotball), this happens:

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I keep saying metas shouldn't date but no one ever listens to me and here are the results. Domestic violence that could level cities.

We need something nicer now
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Aw, isn't that cute? No angst in sight and

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:/ Screw you, guys. Also, I'd like to point outt hat it's Midnighter who leaves Apollo - 3 times! And Apollo waits for him, faithfully, each time. Shocking.

Anyway, for most part Midnighter gets to be the guy who saves the day and avenges awful things done to Apollo (at times terrible, awful things D:). Not always though, sometimes Apollo is the one who kicks ass for Mindy. Ususally, by throwing people around or dropping them from great hights.

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Now it's time for some more family time with Jenny Q

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It wouldn't be The Authority without Kev Hawkins aka the luckiest unlucky git on the planet. He crosses Midnighter and Apollo and yet, lives. The wonders! They do not case!
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The next person who called Midnighter a f__ got a fist through their skull - that's something to ponder about.

More Kev? Why of course! (favorite comic book scene EVER!)
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Midnighter got together with Kev for a pint after that and a s a result, we get something that I can only describe as "gem". Thank you, Garth Ennis, for providing us with stuff like that.

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For every Chuck Dixon, there is one Garth Ennis and I have a happy.

Oh and this as well because lol

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Not enough Garth? You want more? YOU GET MORE!

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Midnighter=Dave forevery.

But speaking of people doing bad things to Apollo and Midnighter doing bad things to them, this one made me laugh (not like that Other Time, You Know When, when I cried)

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To finish things off neatly, just some more random scenes.

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And remember - Midnighter hates you but he loves your kid.

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Date: 2011-12-13 08:40 pm (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
-I find it then really ironic that the most we ever find out about their sex life is from that Midnighter and Grifter crossover series, that was written by Chuck “I don't want no gays in them comic books, depriving them children. WHY IS NO ONE THINKING ABOUT THE CHILDREN EXCEPT FOR ME!? BTW, here is teenage Spoiler getting pregnant. You know, for kids!” Dixon. -

To be fair, I believe he's said he has no problem with gay characters in more mature books, and the Authority'd definitely qualify (not the only time he's written gay characters well either).

Which still doesn't excuse his stance, of course.

Date: 2011-12-13 09:03 pm (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
Yea, no argument there.

Date: 2011-12-13 08:55 pm (UTC)
ext_197528: (Default)
From: [identity profile] kurenai-tenka.livejournal.com
Aww, I love these two. <3

Though whose bright idea was it to let Dixon write Midnighter? Good grief... :P

Date: 2011-12-13 09:07 pm (UTC)
mommy: Arshtat; Suikoden V (The same thing we do every night.)
From: [personal profile] mommy
My favorite Authority member is still the Engineer, but I definitely went away shipping Midnighter and Apollo.

Date: 2011-12-13 09:12 pm (UTC)
mommy: Arshtat; Suikoden V (The same thing we do every night.)
From: [personal profile] mommy
It would have been nice if Rose had more screentime as a member of the team, if only because I barely knew her before the second arc ended.

Date: 2011-12-14 02:39 am (UTC)
sallymustard: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sallymustard
Same for me, all of this.

Date: 2011-12-13 09:29 pm (UTC)
stubbleupdate: (Default)
From: [personal profile] stubbleupdate
Remember, Midnighter kicked a man's head off his shoulders.

Also, I prefer "The Midnighter" to "Midnighter"

Date: 2011-12-14 04:21 am (UTC)
hw221: (Default)
From: [personal profile] hw221
And not just a man, the second time. Basically a nazi.

And he kicked Hitler in the junk.

Date: 2011-12-13 09:59 pm (UTC)
halloweenjack: (Default)
From: [personal profile] halloweenjack
I kind of liked Simon Bisley's art (the first scans that you posted)--it's kind of neat in a scruffy, Kevin O'Neill kind of way--but I know that it's not to everyone's tastes. (And the size difference shown between A and M there is bogus; M looks like Sid Vicious--an amusing thought, but just wrong for the character.)

Also, one of my favorite Midnighter scenes was in the Stormwatch: Team Achilles book. (Yes, I know, Micah Wright and all that, but still.) M meets up with one of the STA people, Jukko, who had previously beaten him (in a pretty badly written issue, IMO), to hang out in a bar and talk. It's probably one of the better non-Garth-Ennis-written comics with two guys in a bar talking.

Date: 2011-12-14 10:02 am (UTC)
kiev4am: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kiev4am
I love that bar scene too. Not just the dynamic between the two characters and their mutual respect, but he's got glasses on :D Also:

"What are grits?"
"Grits are a dollar fifty."
"No, but what are they?"
"Oh, what are they? ...Grits are a dollar fifty."

Hee :)

Date: 2011-12-13 10:16 pm (UTC)
hekaterine: (DC)
From: [personal profile] hekaterine
Thank you! I love those two. :)

Date: 2011-12-14 12:10 am (UTC)
northstarfan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] northstarfan
I really do hate that whole "Gay? What's that?" conversation. A future where everyone considers who you like to fuck -- or whether you want to fuck anyone at all -- to be about as important as which hand you write with? Right, all for that. A future where I'm supposed to applaud that a large number of sexual identities apparently doesn't even exist as concepts? Uh...no. No, thank you. Please take this concept back to the drawing board, Mr. Ennis.

Date: 2011-12-14 01:12 am (UTC)
blackruzsa: (Default)
From: [personal profile] blackruzsa
Thanks for this :D There're a lot here I haven't seen yet.

Good or crap writers aside, their relationship is really adorable.

Date: 2011-12-14 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] turtlefu
I've always wondered what the appeal was with these two.

I feel like it's mostly the gimmick of a Gay Batman and Superman.

Because these scans CLEARLY show that they aren't even remotely well written. The only interesting thing about them is that they are gay, which kinda feels like stereotyping? Or fetishizing...

I wish I had a "bitch please" icon

Date: 2011-12-14 05:04 am (UTC)
sethgray: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sethgray
Yes, because showing two gay characters who don't suffer from Barely There syndrome, and actually talk about their relationship on panel is CLEARLY stereotyping.

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Date: 2011-12-14 10:12 am (UTC)
kiev4am: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kiev4am
Awesome post! And very well-timed now that we kind of, sort of have them back in an (I hope) ongoing book. Yayyy, Authority nostalgia.

I want to put in a good word for Authority: World's End, though. I loved that series, even with Apollo being more or less fridged for most of it. I thought the writers wrote an excellent, Ellis-like Midnighter - compassionate and witty rather than one-note badass, and missing Apollo desperately. For all the angst, there are a couple of romantic-as-hell Midnighter-Apollo scenes in there, like the bit with the moonlight and balloons or Apollo on his own in the sun thinking 'I wonder what you're doing today...' And in his few scenes, Apollo is heroic. I loved the art too, so dark and craggy and epic. Simon Coleby's version of Midnighter is one of my favourites (likewise dark and craggy). I appreciate artists who draw him out of his mask occasionally, and c'mon, Midnighter with his cup of tea on the cover of issue #8 is a timeless classic :D

Date: 2011-12-14 10:14 am (UTC)
kiev4am: (authority)
From: [personal profile] kiev4am
Dang. I should've used this icon for my World's End cheerleading ;)

Date: 2011-12-14 02:22 pm (UTC)
baihu: (Default)
From: [personal profile] baihu
I think you're missing a set where Apollo and Midnighter are in bed and they're both naked/half-dressed and Midnighter was coming on to Apollo for early morning sexy times when Jenny pops out above them with teleportation.

I remember the exchange being after Midnighter scolds Jenny for basically walking in without any chance for them to stop her, Apollo says: "Aren't you being a too hard?" and Midnighter replies: "Not anymore." with Apollo leering/laughing.

It was in the issue where they fight that intergalactic super slavetraders/corporation with the knock-off of the Aliens' xenomorphs.

That's probably as close to an actual 'sex scene' there ever was, I think.

Date: 2011-12-14 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] nordgren
Would anyone happen to have their very first appearance in Ellis' Stormwatch? I think the text wasn't very sub even then.

Date: 2011-12-14 07:40 pm (UTC)
kiev4am: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kiev4am
You mean the scene where they're getting dressed together (from nude) and talking like an old married couple? Yep. It amazes me that anyone who read that could have been surprised by the kiss in Authority #8. Haven't got the scans though, sorry.

(also, another reason why Warren Ellis is great - he wrote them as sounding more married in their first ever scene than some later writers did when they were actually, y'know, married.)

Date: 2011-12-15 12:46 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] joasakura
:Sad panda: Nothing but photobucket signs :(

Date: 2011-12-15 02:26 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starsaber
bandwidth exceeded! WHY!? ;_;

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