perletwo: superior intellect? (legion - brainy)
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Things are still building slowly in this weeks LOSH #14, but they are building. Four pages.



We open with an update on Cosmic Boy, who got whupped by three Braalian pirates last issue.

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Dr. Gym'll! I love that little grump, and feared he'd turn down further Legion business after his nephew's death. But here he is, grumping away and doing superior work for the Legion. That last line of his is...interesting, no?

Meanwhile, Element Lad and Chemical Kid have built a tracker as per Brainy's instructions and are hot on the pirates' trail. Back at HQ, Brainiac 5 continues to pick Comet Queen's brain in hopes of finding out why she betrayed them.

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Back in pirate space, Element Lad and Chem Kid face down the three Braalians, and Jan gets knocked out. Hadru hauls him off into hiding, sends a distress call to HQ, and has a momentary crisis of confidence, which he overcomes.

Still elsewhere, Sun Boy's away team is at a high-security weapons locker where the Fatal Five's weapons have been kept since the Legion last broke the gang. The warden explains the extensive security precautions there, and Phantom Girl once again schools Dirk on why it's pointless to cop a feel off a Bgtzlian girl. Oh, and this happens.

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Back in Strategic Retreat Country, Hadru wakes Element Lad by speeding up his body's chemical processes. They once again practice efficacious teamwork (see the textline on my cut tag above) and take down the three Braalians. A day late and a dollar short, help arrives...

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Why, hi there, ladies, long time no see! Night Girl and Shadow Lass are, of course, two Legionnaires who also often use their complementary powers together to great effect. I include this page instead of a Jan-Hadru fight page because of Ayla's little speech at the end. This concept of "uniques" appears to be a thing that's going to be thematically important at some point - Brainy also uses the term "became a unique" when studying Comet Queen's brain scans.


Love that teaser for next ish, because "Witch in a Time Storm" means either Glorith or Mysa will be turning up. Either would be dandy by me!

Date: 2012-11-22 03:47 am (UTC)
shadowpsykie: (ask the questions)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
i forget... are Element Lad and Chemical Lad dating in this series... i know it was alluded to in an OLD Legion series...

Date: 2012-11-22 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Chemical Kid--and I don't think so, because Chemical Kid's a newbie to the whole Legion thing in general. Of course, I could be forgetting something.

Date: 2012-11-22 04:00 am (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
awe, damn... :(

Date: 2012-11-22 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
In fact, now that I think about it, I seem to remember a scene in the first issue of the New 52 volume of Legion that had this Chemical King flirting with one of his fellow, female recruits (Dragonwing, I think was her name), so I'm pretty sure he's straight. Sorry. :(

Date: 2012-11-22 05:36 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] superfangirl1
I'll feel you sadness also and awe. :(

Date: 2012-11-22 04:08 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Oh, so he had other male relationships before the whole "Erin" debacle in the Pre/Retroboot? Sorry if that's a noobish question--I still have some blocks of Legion stuff I haven't read yet.

Date: 2012-11-22 05:22 am (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
how is the whole "erin" thing a debacle?

Date: 2012-11-22 06:20 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Maybe "debacle" isn't the right word, but I mean the whole, "Element Lad's had some gay subtext for a while, but he suddenly started to date a lady! Oh, I know, I'll have it revealed that Erin was a dude who took a serum to make himself a lady to get Element Lad to notice him" thing.

Date: 2012-11-22 07:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Though I always liked Jan's "Did you really think it would make a difference to me?" attitude, it came close to saving the definitely brave and well-intentioned, but rather winceworthy, story.

Date: 2012-11-23 01:28 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
I can't help but wonder why that isn't utilized more often. I mean, a serum that can change someone's gender is not only rife for interesting trans characters, but also for some silly shenanigans!

Date: 2012-11-22 04:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
No, there are, AFAIK, no canonical male pairings for Jan before Sean/Shvaughn.

Pre Zero Hour, a Secret Origins issue had Chemical King be inducted into the Legion by the original Invisible Kid (Lyle Norg) and they become close, though how close is not elaborated on, it might have been fraternal (since Condo had been a desperately lonely kid and Lyle was a combination big brother and saviour to him), or it might have been a bit more. Then Lyle is killed in action and a while, after a devastated Condo has become friends with Brainiac 5 (Who had always liked Lyle as the closest thing the Legion had to an intellectual equal), Condo is killed too.

Date: 2012-11-22 04:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Hadru's father copied the genecodes of the original Chemical King and had them grafted on to his son, in effecting giving him Condo's powers.

Date: 2012-11-22 04:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Not quite IIRC.

Post-Zero Hour Invisible Kid was intended to be gay and start dating a guy named Condo Arlik, who wasn't a superhero but a reporter who showed up now and again. Alas the writers changed and we descended into the grimness of the DnA Legion before it could be pursued.

Post-ZH Element Lad's orientation was never made clear though he and Monstress were close friends. Then, again, DnA happened and we shall not speak of that fustercluck known as "Legion Lost".

Date: 2012-11-22 04:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Brainy/Lyle was a combination of reading between the lines and fanon.

Lyle had been something of a loner, but who had been shown to be in love with a woman before (Who turned out to be a ghost, for what that's worth).

As he was created and died long before the possibility of a gay Legionnaire was anywhere on the horizon, most of it is best considered to be fanon.

Date: 2012-11-22 04:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Post-ZH Brainy and Lyle were perhaps closer to sort of friendly rivals, with Brainy being intellecutally superior, but Lyle being more creative in the applications of his ideas.

The best example would be this one
Edited Date: 2012-11-22 04:51 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-11-22 04:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Oh, and here is the retconned in Lyle/Condo/Brainy story.

Date: 2012-11-22 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
It is nice to see Gym'll--I didn't remember the nephew thing until you mentioned it, but I would think that he probably doesn't blame them for it. Besides, they're always good at getting his vouchers signed and paid on time.

As for Cosmic Boy...I'm thinking they're saying his powers are gone. It would make sense--Levitz has basically been trying to get the founding members to step back and retire since The Great Darkness Saga, for crying out loud.

Yeah, the reason for Comet's "betrayal" was the big interesting thing in this issue for me. Maybe my memory's bad with the current stuff, but I can't think of any reason why Comet/Saturn Queen would want Brainy dead.

The scene with Persuader's Axe...notice how Sun Boy calls it the "legends of the Fatal Five?" Okay, look--I've been pretty gun-ho and supportive of quite a few of the wild continuity changes that came out of the New 52, but I still can't think of a good reason why the Legion's continuity is different in this one specific detail.

Ayla's line about Violet complaining about her losing muscle tone was fun. :)

Date: 2012-11-22 09:48 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lieut_kettch
Ayla's line about Violet complaining about her losing muscle tone was fun. :)

Vayla cuteness is always fun.

Date: 2012-11-22 09:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lieut_kettch
Ahh, the ol' Lydda/Shady team up. Nice to know they haven't forgotten the classics.

Date: 2012-11-22 04:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I don't remember them doing it that often in the classics, which seemed such a waste.

Date: 2012-11-23 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
I think they did it once during Eye for an Eye, and then after that, I think it was used in Johns' Superman & The Legion storyline.

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