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Video at 3:16 says "I just kicked that argument's ass".

Date: 2009-07-07 12:38 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] galateus.insanejournal.com
No fair. Live-action lady has a connection between the two boob-coverings. Star Sapphire's are clinging on for dear life individually.

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Date: 2009-07-07 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aaron_bourque.insanejournal.com
It's a bodysuit. Flesh-colored fabric. That said, to hell with slavegirl Princess Leia!

Date: 2009-07-07 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.insanejournal.com
Have none of you heard of spirit gum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_gum)? :-7

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Date: 2009-07-07 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jlroberson.insanejournal.com
I...uh...er...what was the argument again?

Good lord, this is Fritz Lang? Let me look that up...oh heavens, my library has it available online!

Why, thank you!

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Date: 2009-07-07 01:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jarodrussell.insanejournal.com
I <3 Green Lantern fans, or Violet Lanterns...whatever.

"The Power Ring can go anything...except those things it can't...but it is limitless...except for the limits imposed on it...which is why it's the greatest weapon in the Universe, ever built...except for the Miracle Machine...because the constructs aren't made to last, neither are the effects they have...except when Kyle really, really wanted it to and Hal made those duplicate rings...etc."

Green Lantern readers are like the essence of computer users distilled into a target for my loathing.

The stupid costume stays on because it's an energy construct mapped to her body, re-rendered a billion times a second to account for both boob physics and boob anti-physics. Duh!

Date: 2009-07-07 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dr_hermes.insanejournal.com
This is the same image where Green Lantern's mask has no strings, right?

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Date: 2009-07-07 01:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vanhelsin.insanejournal.com
In the dancing scenes, her skin is very shiny,which is probably due to a body stocking. In others, her skin does not have a high shine, and the coverings were probably applied with spirit gum or some other equivalent. Fritz Lang, being a director of some renown, skilfully combined the two through the power of editing!

Date: 2009-07-07 01:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jlroberson.insanejournal.com
And science. let's not forget science.

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Date: 2009-07-07 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toasty_fresh.insanejournal.com
This doesn't work as an analogue, because snake-lady's . . . thing covers her entire breasts, and her breasts only, while Star Stapphire's shirt attaches to sleeves and only covers part of her breasts. See, when snake-lady moves her arms, the glorified pasties aren't affected and don't move and have more grab because they go around the curve of her breast, but when Star Sapphire moves her arms, the material will tug at the material on her breasts, and because the material doesn't cover the curve, it'll move a little to the outside of the breast each time (unless she's got it superglued on or something, in which case it'd just be painful).

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Date: 2009-07-07 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] volksjager.insanejournal.com
Way Cool. More nfo on thr film please! Looks like a version of Ishtar (?) maybe the top is held on by hooks if she has pierced nips ???

Date: 2009-07-07 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jlroberson.insanejournal.com
You know who that is? That's Debra Paget, also known as Lilia the Water Girl in THE TEN COMMANDMENTS. (Joshua's love interest, the one Edward G. Robinson takes from him) Also the female lead in LOVE ME TENDER.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debra_Paget

As far as the film itself, it's Fritz Lang, 1959, THE INDIAN TOMB, which is why it's in German.

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Date: 2009-07-07 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kagome654.insanejournal.com
I wanna see the fanmade version of that cover with Hal stripped down to a speedo and Star Sapphire wearing a black bodysuit under her pink uniform...thing.

For discussion purposes, of course...

Date: 2009-07-07 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jarodrussell.insanejournal.com
You've never seen [insanejournal.com profile] odditycollector's covers, have you?

*shudders*

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Yay:) Glad you liked.

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Date: 2009-07-07 02:09 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-07-07 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foxhack.insanejournal.com
Her belly area and the upper part of her legs really bug me. The skin looks off.

It's a partial body suit. Yes, it's hot as hell, but I think that's a body suit. The skin should be shining a bit more because of the oils it naturally uh... exudes?

Date: 2009-07-07 03:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mysteryfan.insanejournal.com
Hmm. About 5:22, when she's writhing up from being on the floor. Underneath her right boob: Wrinkling. Not skin wrinkling but bodysuit wrinkling, looks like to me.

Rubber cement (spirit gum) is another way to go, and might work for the woman up there with her shoe on Hal Jordan's throat. But rubber cemented on suit doesn't support anything, wouldn't probably hold in a fight too well--it just rips off, with skin attached, and can even if you're just pulling it off yourself. So, if you you know, wear the same suit a couple of days in a row? The same places COULD keep losing the first layer of skin.

Just saying.

Date: 2009-07-07 06:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gargoylekitty.insanejournal.com
Nah, skin wrinkles like that. Though it's most definitely being held on by a fair amount spirit gum, there's just nothing else to support it.

Date: 2009-07-07 03:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lieut_kettch.insanejournal.com
The power of Luuuurve holds them together!

Date: 2009-07-07 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] superfan1.insanejournal.com
I like this explanation.

Date: 2009-07-07 04:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreadedlurker.insanejournal.com
Wow. There's so many things about this I don't even know where to begin.

1. I think the main problem with the comic book costume is that in real life, her nipples would be showing. Women do not have nipples on the outer edges of their boobs!

2. She's definitely wearing a body suit in at least some of the shots. Her skin is too matte looking and there's not enough texture, esp on her stomach.

3. I have no idea what this movie is or the quality of the rest of it, but this seems like kind of a step down for Fritz Lang compared to, say, Metropolis.

4. Check out the very end for more amazing science-defying pastie action.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw0Cm3iY-MU&feature=related
Start at about 8:50 or so.

It's from the musical Gypsy, btw.

Date: 2009-07-07 04:22 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kingrockwell
Puh-lease, the idea that it couldn't possibly stay on isn't even the beginning of the problems with that costume.

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Date: 2009-07-07 05:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] proteus_lives.insanejournal.com
Snake-dancer lady is hawt!

Date: 2009-07-07 06:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gargoylekitty.insanejournal.com
Meh, the lantern's outfits seem pretty much entirely generated by their rings so no need for logic.

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Date: 2009-07-07 07:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danielolsen.insanejournal.com
I don't care, that cover is hot as heck. Would only be grander if whomevver-Lanterns (without the grey streaks visible I have no idea if this is Hal or Kyle) costume whas similarly singed, wich for everything about awesome-logic can be attributed to doubt.

Sexy, sexy doubt. Also pink beam whips of love.

But yeah, the boob region is really weird. In reality it would be aereola city up there but its negated by the power of the no nipple-no nude norm.

Wich is a whole topic unto itself.

Date: 2009-07-07 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jlroberson.insanejournal.com
It might be if not for the absurd legs and arms.

"Needles and pins, uh."

Date: 2009-07-07 12:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mxlm.insanejournal.com
What in the hell did I just watch?

Date: 2009-07-07 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] triestine.livejournal.com (from insanejournal.com)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Indian_Tomb_%281959_film%29

OK, OP, you just had me peering at boobs for a few minutes so I'll just say that there is definitely something suspiciously shiny or strappy about the glitterpanties, and as for the boobs I'm guessing spirit gum.

breasts do not work that way, dude

Date: 2009-07-07 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I would accept your refutation, if that dance had more actual bounce to it. I'm a big titted lass myself and I can tell you that those dance moves were all performed verrrrrry carefully and are bounce-minimal. There is lots of "ooh look at my arms and legs moving, my arms and legs moving very much" but all the torso movement is slow and balanced with the exception of one or two fast-looking moments. We also have no idea how many outtakes there were on this - the amount this scene is cut with different angles and camera views, there could have been 50 takes of this scene and we would never know.

I can't see any bodysuit, and I will happily concede that very high quality adhesives could make a costume like the full covering bellydance bra stay put, but I can tell you why the superhero costume would not work for fighting, above and beyond the argument for "not staying on". Fighting is a high impact activity - that dance is decidedly low impact.

High impact issues;

Breasts are fluid. Mine try to fight their way out of a full coverage bra if I do anything more active than walking - in a plunge bra I generally have to shift things back into place every 30 minutes or so to avoid accidental nipple exposure.

Breasts are heavy and hang in skin. I wear specially designed big-boob supporting bras most of the time and special sports bras for any kind of activity, and even then running is painful. I mean really painful. I have damaged my chest skin before trying to run for a bus in an insufficiently supportive bra. Running/jumping/anything aerobic is also hard because, if my breasts bounce too much, it interferes with breathing by tugging on the ribs and makes me run out of breath faster.

I also, despite training with weights and practicing pilates, suffer from frequent and severe back and neck pain despite my good and supportive bra-wear. Codeine is a regular friend of mine. My lower back has a permanent deep arch in it from trying to stand in a way that balances my chest, I get frequent pressure headaches stemming from damaged neck and shoulder muscles and sometimes my shoulderblades lock up so bad I need massage therapy to regain full use of my arms.

If I tried to fight... ONCE... in a costume like that I would need probably a fortnight or so of physical therapy to be able to do normal things. And no, physical training will not fix this, not even physical training to a high level; maybe if I was an expert martial artist in addition to my other exercise practices I would need less physical therapy, but no way would I be absolutely fine the morning after a fight in that costume. There is a muscle wall behind the breasts that can be worked but... again... that in itself does not prevent the weight of large breasts from doing damage like I have mentioned.

I know there are arguments that alien women might not have the same physiology... despite somehow having the same body shape as a human woman... but I find it convenient how alien physiology always seems to affect breasts in just the right way to allow for fanservice.

Interesting argument though, and nice to see video evidence offered for a change.

Re: breasts do not work that way, dude

Date: 2009-07-08 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenmask.insanejournal.com
I want to thank you for putting your personal boob-experience out there, because that is a pretty foolproof case against costumes/designs like this (and better worded than any "BUT COME ON GUYS!!" arguments I've managed to put out before.

So: Thanks! And.. I'm really sorry you have to go through that.

Date: 2009-07-07 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jlroberson.insanejournal.com
Here's all that needs saying about the costume and ones like it:
http://asylums.insanejournal.com/scans_daily/635059.html

Date: 2009-07-08 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sd_mouser.insanejournal.com
Locked entry?

Date: 2009-07-08 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] parsimonia.insanejournal.com
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Date: 2009-07-08 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ceru.insanejournal.com
Neat video! I always enjoy watching skillful dancing, sexy or otherwise.

I can't tell whether or not she's wearing a bodysuit under the shiny stuff--I couldn't see one, but I did see what others have pointed out, that her skin is unusually matte below her shoulders (surprising, since she's exerting herself enough that you'd expect some sweating), and in some of the bends, her skin wrinkles in in odd ways that do look a bit like cloth, not skin. The matte quality could be the result of some kind of body make-up, I suppose, and if they did this in enough takes, they could have reapplied it as necessary. But yeah, it has a weird quality.


Of course, it's telling--telling of something mind-bogglingly obvious--that the go-to source for for superheroine costume comparisons is a temple dancer; the above cover is a straight guy's erotic dominatrix fantasy, and that's all it's meant to be. It's hard to be a woman reading superhero books if you aspire to see women depicted as anything other than wank fodder, which is part of why I no longer read them.

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