Daredevil #612

[cyberghostface]

So Daredevil and co. deduce that Fisk stole the election with assistance from the Mad Thinker. Fisk resigns. Daredevil later has an encounter with the Vigil (the weird assassin from before) and unmasks him only to see that it's... himself.

Matt wakes up on the operating table from after he got hit by the car at the beginning of the arc. In other words, nothing since then really happened.

Comments

[mizerous]

Talk about anticlimactic.

[cyberghostface]

Yep.

The ending someone else suggested -- that Matt discovers after all is said and done that Fisk won legitimately and has a crisis of faith that causes him to abandon New York -- would have been a more satisfying ending.

Honestly feels like Soule didn't know how to tie everything together up in the time he had and just threw up his hands.

At least Fisk is still Mayor, that's one good thing.

[mazway_75]

I was among those suggesting it and agree it would work better. This really hits me as the kind of thing when a book is suddenly axed and the writer has to wrap up a year's worth of stuff in an issue. That Soule planned it like this is more bothersome given we know this "death" won't last too long.

[tcampbell1000]

"He died as he lived, pointlessly rehashing old moments from earlier in his series."

[lbd_nytetrayn]

Is... is he dead now?

[cyberghostface]

I think the blip on the monitor indicates he is still alive.

[kore]

Well, the next bit is that mini with everyone going on after he dies? //shrugs helplessly

Daredevil is gone, but Hell’s Kitchen is still a place of heroes and villains. Foggy Nelson (issue #1), the Defenders (issue #2), the many loves of Matt Murdock (issue #3), the Kingpin (issue #4) and a mysterious Guardian Devil (issue #5) will all learn what it means to live in a world without a Daredevil. And without a Daredevil to protect it, has hell come for his city? Who is The Man Without Fear?

https://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/11/07/marvel-daredevil-man-without-fear/

[janegray]

Damnit. I really liked Mike.

[icon_uk]

Fret not, he's presumably still alive since the "It was all a dream" event happened after Mike was created (Which also means "cleaned up" Doug Ramsey is still a thing too)

[kore]

So the new "man without fear" could be Mike?

[icon_uk]

I think I've missed an issue or to, so which issue was the car accident in so I know how far back the reset goes.

Did Matt assemble his team with the "cleaned up" Cypher or was it before even that?

[locuatico]

#609. After Mike was introduced.

[starwolf_oakley]

Fans of the "How Did This Get Made" Podcast will say "It's a Jacob's Ladder scenario!"

[thanekos]

I look forward to the Daredevil arc inspired by Kindergarten Cop and Portishead albums.

[alliterator]

I actually really enjoy this. The fact that there was no grand, epic battle, the fact that Matt knows, deep down, that the fight with evil will never end and it just keeps going and going, but he doesn't let that stop him.

It also makes sense, since the Vigil as literally Matt's Catholic guilt.

[beyondthefringe]

Yeah.
But at the same time, I feel annoyed and betrayed by several issues worth of "It was all a dream."

Well done, yes, but still, a rather unhappy commentary on futile merry-go-round that is serialized, open-ended storytelling. You don't call attention to the fact that your hero can never truly win, never truly make a lasting difference, because what if your audience agrees and decides it's time to stop riding as well?

I don't blame Matt if he decides to fuck off for a long while, after that sort of realization.

[alliterator]

It kind of reminds me of the last issue of Keiron Gillen's Journey Into Mystery -- Kid Loki acknowledges that he is going to revert back to who he was before, no matter what, because that's what universe wants, for everything to just keep repeating. It's extremely well done, but also depressing.

[kore]

“When I was a third-rate schoolmaster in the twentieth century—or was it in the nineteenth—every single boy I ever met wrote essays for me which ended: Then he woke up. You could say that the Dream was the only literary convention of their most degraded classrooms. Are we to be this? We are the Matter of Britain, remember. And what of oneirocriticism, I ask? What are the psychologists to make of it? Stuff as dreams are made of is stuff and nonsense in my opinion.”

- T. H. White

[alliterator]

"If we shadows have offended,

Think but this, and all is mended,

That you have but slumber'd here

While these visions did appear.

And this weak and idle theme,

No more yielding, but a dream,

Gentles, do not reprehend;

If you pardon, we will mend.

And, as I am an honest Puck,

If we have unearned luck,

Now to 'scape the serpent's tongue,

We will make amends ere long:

Else the Puck a liar call.

So good night unto you all.

Give me your hands, if we be friends,

And Robin shall restore amends."