A serious competition for Terry Long?!

[sun_soraya.insanejournal.com]

As requested I continue posting random 80's Teen Titans stuff.

So... not happy with Terry Long being Donna's lover? Too old? Too annoying? Too creepy? And on top of that a silly haircut? Well, in New Teen Titans #11-12 (1981) he's getting a rival:



See for yourself if the new guy in town can keep up with Terry!

The context: in an intense battle with Deathstroke Gar got shot and is now on the brink of death. To save their friend the Titans fly off to Paradise Island where Gar hopefully can be healed by the Amazon's Purple Ray. While the girls take Gar down to the island the boys leave for a different mission in Africa. And somewhere else...





Meet Hyperion from the Titans of Myth! And before the obvious encounter with Donna, let's take a quick look and compare him with Terry:

Hair: ... well, give Terry a shave and put some flowers in his hair and they could be brothers.
Age: with more than 30.000 years Hyperion wins here - to be fair, Terry might look old but he's actually only 29.
Factor of annoyance: most of us were a bit angry at Terry because he ruined Dick's speech at the campfire scene, but at least you can get a word out in his presence... not so sure here.
Factor of creepiness: ... I always found the Titans of Myth pretty creepy, too.





Hera help me, too, for I cannot bear his enormous ego...





You heard Kory, Dick is the only real man on earth!



And off they fly... to Tartarus once again. After battling a few cyclopses they manage to free the other Titans of Myth:



Together they decide that it's about time to throw Zeus and the other younger gods from the throne. Also: Kory, Raven and the Amazons are on their way to rescue Donna (bringing even Athena herself along), but Donna being Hyperion's new first lady doesn't really care.
Instead in the next issue they head off to Mount Olympus...






Epic battles are fought there and in the end the Titans of Myth win, turning the younger gods into stone.



Momma's here and she doesn't approve of Donna's new boyfriend.
They try to talk things out. Athena being the awesome mod explains that the new peaceful world the Titans of Myth were talking about unfortunately comes without freedom and free will.



And war they get! Kory frees Zeus and before the situation gets even worse, Athena can finally talk sense into everyone. Everyone? Not quite! Hyperion still has something to bitch about.





I know this single page was already included in the Donna&Terry love story post, but it's the epilogue, I can't leave it out...



I'm so bold to say that with Kyle Donna's taste in men changed for the better.

Comments

[xamda.insanejournal.com]

Terry gives me the creeps. :|

[sun_soraya.insanejournal.com]

And Hyperion doesn't?
I think both of them together are the stuff nightmares are made of.

[bluefall.insanejournal.com]

Ah, but Hyperion appears to be meant to be creepy, which makes him a whole different kettle of hydra.

[sun_soraya.insanejournal.com]

True. I sometimes wonder what went wrong with Terry's character to turn out this way.

[tanetris.insanejournal.com]

Terry + Hyperion = OTP?

[sailorlibra.insanejournal.com]

Maybe we should be glad that Diana never really gets into serious relationships. Because, apparently, there are no good matches for super-powered Amazons.

[bluefall.insanejournal.com]

Hippolyta: Herc (her rapist, now thankfully retconned out), Ted Grant. That's a 50-100% success rate, depending on continuity, and if you run with Jimenez' implication that Phillipus is in love with her, her suitor pool goes to 66%-100% positive.

Donna: Terry Long (... Terry Long), Roy Harper (a good guy but not a good mate), Angle Man (amusing as a suitor, problematic as an actual prospect), Kyle Rayner (we have a winner). She's running a 25% success rate, down to 20% if you look at the suitor pool and Hyperion pops up. (She does, however, have the highest ratio of decent costumes in the family, which is something.)

Diana: Superman (ultimately not a good match, but excellent taste), Batman (just no), Aquaman, apparently (but only when he's a prick, so that's also a no), Rama (a true winner), Trevor Barnes (a true loser), Tresser (no), Io (again, ultimately not a good match but excellent taste). 42% success rate. Add in suitors, though - Indelicato, Schorr - and we're down to 33%.

Cassie: Kon (good call), Tim (... not a bad idea in theory, but disgusting and wrong in execution, and deeply problematic when combined with the way Diana gets passed between Clark and Bruce). 50% success rate, and no rejected suitors.

Temi: Mike Schorr (loser) and that dude from the mini whose name I forget, he's that dumb (loser). 0% success rate.

So, on average, amazons have about a 36% likelihood of ending up in a decent match. Not exactly awe-inspiring, but at least there's a chance.

[jlbarnett.insanejournal.com]

I want a MarvelDC crossover where she dates the MUs Hercules.

Maybe even do one of those amalgamated universe where the Herc she knew back in the day was Marvel's Herc.

[fredneil.livejournal.com (from insanejournal.com)]

I'd say Golden Age Steve Trevor, but Golden Age Wonder Woman wasn't superpowered, relatively speaking.

[bluefall.insanejournal.com]

Well, she was as much as Temi is. But if you include Golden Age Steve Trevor, you also have to include Silver and Bronze Age Steve Trevor, which is a net negative.

[fredneil.livejournal.com (from insanejournal.com)]

I don't know Temi, but I thought Golden Age Wonder Woman got her powers through Amazon Bondage Training.

If I acknowledge that there even was a Silver and Bronze Age Steve Trevor, I'd have to acknowledge a Silver and Bronze Age Wonder Woman, and that's not going to happen. But in those books that didn't happen, wasn't Steve Trevor dead for most of the Bronze age?

[bluefall.insanejournal.com]

Artemis, sorry. 90s Replacement Wonder Woman. She doesn't have powers (well, she shouldn't, though periodically that gets ignored), but she got to use the Gauntlet of Atlas and the Sandals of Hermes, and basically got to be flying and punchy through magical tools, which is thematically equivalent to Magic Bondage Training (Marston may have presented it like there was nothing supernatural about it, but if you can lose it just because a man puts his foot on a lump of sand, it's magical).

wasn't Steve Trevor dead for most of the Bronze age?

Well, some. He was his own son for a while in there too, or masquerading as his own son, or as somebody else, or... something. I confess I haven't read the era too vigorously.

[colonel_green.insanejournal.com]

Bronze Age Steve Trevor is the best indicator that if there were large numbers of comics series with female leads, their male love interests would indeed get messed around with as much as female love interests in male-lead comics often are. Because man, dude had it rough. No one had the slightest clue what to do with him; he died, he came back, died again, an AU version turned up at one point, I think...

[01d55.insanejournal.com]

(Marston may have presented it like there was nothing supernatural about it, but if you can lose it just because a man puts his foot on a lump of sand, it's magical).

Or legal!

Golden Age Athena held a patent on Amazonian training, and licensed it to Aphrodite under stringent terms. No men on Paradise Island is part of the terms. If they let a man step foot on the island, their license is revoked!

[colonel_green.insanejournal.com]

I miss Ted. Whenever the big story allows a free moment, I'd love if Simone would give the two of them a couple of pages to meet up; certainly, a lot has changed since the last time they saw each other.

[jelly_ace.insanejournal.com]

I am speechless at this awesome intersection of math and comic books.

LOLling at Kyle Rayner being a good match, though. Isn't he the owner of the penis of death? Or was it being sarcastic?

...the way Diana gets passed between Clark and Bruce... is just so...porn-y.

[colonel_green.insanejournal.com]

Kyle's a great guy, bad writing tendencies aside (though, meta-ly, Donna's death wasn't remotely related to him; Jade was half/half, since she was event fodder and also effecting Alan, but Kyle got a powerup out of it (though they quickly backtracked on Jade's death having been the reason)).

[bluefall.insanejournal.com]

Well, not quite sarcastic. More... wry.

Though at least Donna's resilient. Kyle's Black Widower effect didn't kick in on her until a couple years after they'd broken up, and she came back in about the same span of time. Better she dates him than he end up with someone like, I dunno, Gypsy.

[jfurioso.insanejournal.com]

Diana DOES NOT "get passed between Clark And Bruce". She takes up "Clark or Bruce" at her whim, much like for sparring, openly and with full involvement for the moment, even if just as exercise. One for sheer power, the other for depth of skill. Yet like in sparring, she always ends up on top.

Hell, I think Ive already drawn that.

[jelly_ace.insanejournal.com]

Yup, definitely porn-y. :)

[aaron_bourque.insanejournal.com]

Is Ted Grant really a positive? I mean . . . really. Sure, he's better than Rapistules, but I was always really disappointed with Hippolyta and Ted's thing. It felt, I don't know, unseemly somehow.

Phillippus and Hippolyta?

[cardinalx.insanejournal.com]

It´s been ages since I read the Jiménez run, but when and where was it implied that Phillippus is in love with Hippolyta? I´m a Hippolyta/Phillippus (Phippolyta?) shipper, so I´d like to know.

[bluefall.insanejournal.com]

Our Worlds at War. Phillipus is explaining Diana's history to a couple of the Bana, including talking about Diana's death and Polly's stint as Wonder Woman, and one of them gets up in her face about Polly being a fucktard during WML's run, and Phil gets all defensive, and the other Bana is like "... you love her!"

Phil gets all flustered and openmouthed and then the news arrives that Polly is dead.

Philly and Polly sitting in a tree...

[cardinalx.insanejournal.com]

I certainly remember Pollys death (one of the few times a deathscene gripped me), but not the Phillippus scene you describe.

.....

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Scan?

[espanolbot.insanejournal.com]

Wait, I thought that the whole "Hippolyta being attacked by Hercules" thing was referenced in the Wonder Woman storyline based on a potential movie about Diana that she was over seeing?

Where they showed it as conscentual which ticked Diana off because it wasn't.

Also, Cassie DOES have a rejected suitor: back in her mini series Hercules made a pass at her (her being his half-sister is referenced*) because he wanted to make a new pantheon due to the Female Furies imprisoning the old ones.

*If I remember correctly he said that Zeus and Hera are brother and sister, so it should be ok or something.

[bluefall.insanejournal.com]

Herc, per Perez, raped Polly. Polly, per Perez, forgave Herc and made sexytimes with him on a Themysciran beach three thousand years later. Polly, per Gail as of a year ago, may or may not have forgiven Herc, but apparently at the very least never made consensual sexytimes with him. Diana's complaint about the movie is the first we've ever heard of Polly not having a romance with Herc.

Fair point about Herc hitting on Cassie, though I didn't really get the impression he was actually serious about that the way his romance with Polly was serious or Mike Schorr's crush on Diana was serious. He kind of just bugs her about it a couple times then moves on with a shrug and a "whatever."

[darkknightjrk.insanejournal.com]

"Batman (just no)"

Maybe it's because I've recently watched JLU again (they do do a lot of things better then the comics), but I never really saw what was so bad about them as a couple.

[aaron_bourque.insanejournal.com]

It's fine in JLU because their characterization fits, at least that'd be bluefall's argument. However, in the mainstream comics, just no.

[psychop_rex.insanejournal.com]

I'm not so sure I agree with that. They're far from an obvious match, of course, but they've had some interesting interplay in the past. In Matt Wagner's version of the first teamup between Batman, Wondy, and Supes, Clark and Bruce follow Diana to Themyscira. Bats, of course, lands separately - he's the first to see Diana, and he's so overwhelmed by the island's aura of paradise in general and her beauty in particular that he briefly breaks character, goes all gooey, and gives her a big ol' smooch. Of course, this doesn't go down too well, given the fact that she's bathing at the time, and he backpedals furiously the moment he's himself again, but it is specifically acknowledged at the end of the story that the encounter added a new layer to his battle against crime - he's seen beauty and paradise; now he hopes to be able to recreate it one day.
Also, there's a Bats/Wondy teamup where several of her villains possess several of his villains, giving them mythological powers. Naturally, both heroes get involved in the fight, and in the process, Bats gets briefly possessed by Ares's son Phobos, the demigod of Fear. He very nearly gives into this completely, revelling in the ability to do instantly what he's sought to do through initimidation for years, making every person in the city terrified of him - then Wondy steps in, and reminds him that fear is not, in fact, what his mission is. She helps him overcome Phobos and cast him out - had she not been there, he might well have been lost forever. Afterwards, while it's hardly lovey-dovey, the two share a moment where they're considerably more open with each other than the two normally are, with the implication that they could possibly be closer if they chose.
So while I agree that a Batman/Wondy hookup is unlikely, and that there are better candidates for Diana's love, it's not an impossible thing - it could actually work fairly well, given the right writer.

[aaron_bourque.insanejournal.com]

Oh, there's an attraction, of course. But they're fundamentally opposed, philosophically, than even Superman and Batman. Diana is practically the Goddess of Truth, and Batman is all about deceiving and deception, for survival. And paradoxically, they've got similar senses of honor, so if they hook-up, they'd always be trying to make it last, and they never could because their world-views are just that opposed.

[psychop_rex.insanejournal.com]

It'd make for some interesting stories, though, wouldn't it? What if, for example, Hippolyta decided that Wayne Industries' international presence would make it ideal to help spread the word of peace that the Amazons are so intent on? 'Dear, could you ask your boyfriend a teensy weensy favor...?'

[aaron_bourque.insanejournal.com]

'Dear, could you ask your boyfriend a teensy weensy favor...?'
Bruce would say no, because it would break the Bat/Bruce separator line, Diana have trouble with the concept of secret identity, they'd have a fight, possibly make-up, and go on from there, each mentally, subconsciously adding to the tally of "I'm not happy in this relationship." Eventually, that list gets too long for one or both of them, and they end it. Their friendship is always slightly awkward afterwords, and months, maybe years later, they'll keep wondering "What the hell was I thinkin?"

I don't like seeing painful romances that are doomed to failure and kinda fail whilst their occurring.

Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque; having seen these sorts of things in real life (they burn brightly but quickly, and in the end, no one's happy)

[psychop_rex.insanejournal.com]

Well, sure, if you wanna be a killjoy... Anyway, how would it break the line between Batman and Bruce? All he would have to do is make a public announcement as Bruce Wayne that Wayne Enterprises was entering a new partnership with the Island of Themyscira, for the purposes of spreading international peace and goodwill. There's nothing to link Batman to that - he hangs out with Wondy as part of the Justice League anyway, and it's not like the two of them would make public appearances. It actually might help bolster his secret identity - if a visitor to Wayne Manor happened to stumble across Bruce and Diana hanging out, they could simply say that they were having a business lunch or something. Diana has no secret identity to protect, and if Bruce Wayne is involved in a business venture with her country, that's a perfectly legitimate reason for the two of them to spend a fair amount of time together.

[aaron_bourque.insanejournal.com]

Wayne's charity works are already global. If he makes some sort of overt connection to--for all intents and purposes--a foreign government, people will look into it. It also raises the question of why he never did something like that before. It also creates a connection between Batman and the Amazons and Bruce and the Amazons. That's not to say he wouldn't entertain the idea if he weren't dating Diana, but again, the scrutiny would be something he'd want to avoid.

[psychop_rex.insanejournal.com]

How does it create a connection between Batman and the Amazons and Bruce and the Amazons? It's not like Diana would become his new sidekick if they ever hooked up. They're both adults with separate superheroic careers of their own to deal with - Bats spends his time fighting crime in Gotham and Diana... well, I haven't been keeping up with her book, but she does what she's been doing. The two have been seen together before - rarely - and if they hooked up, they'd be seen together again - slightly less rarely. So what? They're both known members of the JLA, and, from what I've gathered, hang out together in 'Trinity' all the time as well. (I could be wrong about this; I haven't actually read any of 'Trinity'.) I think you'd have to be a pretty dedicated conspiracy theorist to find a link between Batman-Diana and Bruce-Amazons, especially given Bruce's mania for covering his tracks.

[xdoop.insanejournal.com]

How was Herc retconned out?

[bluefall.insanejournal.com]

Ack, blonde!Polly. >.<

This is a good story, if skeevy, but for me it just highlights that much more how poorly thought out Donna's post-Crisis treatment was. Because... this is perfect. The Titans are enemies of the Olympians; they are therefore the natural enemies of the amazons as well. They were imprisoned by their children, and their first act, if they became capable of acting, would be to war with Zeus. If one of the Wonder women could make a peace between them, so much the better, but it would start ugly, and manipulative and careless of human life, because that's what Titans *are* in the mythology that the entire Wonder mythology is based on. So... you make Donna the offspring of the "Titans of Myth" and have her swear by Rhea all the time... you're not just sundering her from her proper amazon heritage, you're actually making her an enemy of her people.

Also, damn. Remember how pretty Donna was when she wore an outfit with a halfway attractive neckline?

[colonel_green.insanejournal.com]

I'm surprised that we've yet to see a story where the Titans and the Olympians go to war and Donna sides with the Titans. If it was a Silver Age story, it would have an insanely melodramatic title like "My Sister...My Enemy!"

[magus_69.insanejournal.com]

Didn't Rhea side with the Olympians against the Titans?

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

See, for my money if your going to date a Greek god, get ahold of Hermes. It's not just ,that is a big dick, it's that big dick,so big a freakin' bird is landing on it.

[his_spiffyness.insanejournal.com]

Is that Hermes? With a penis that big I'd assume Priapus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priapus)

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

Nope. It's Hermes. The Greek had dick on the brain alot. I'm sure many deities had big ones. To protest the Ionian war one night women broke of the penises of the all Hermes statues in Thebes.

[ashtoreth.insanejournal.com]

That link says that Athenians mixed them together a lot.

Interesting bit about Ares as well..

Priapus was accounted as a warlike god, a rustic tutor to the infant Ares, "who taught him dancing first and war only afterwards

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

That's the way the Spartans did it as well. You learned movement and rhythm, then formation and weapons.

[bluejaybirdie.insanejournal.com]

...holy crap 0.o

[box_in_the_box.insanejournal.com]

So, Hermes was also the God Of How Fanfic Authors Portray "Average" Penis Length, then?

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

The erection was supposed to be a demonstration of his speed. Some how the Greek drew an association with speed and sexual potency. If you want to read a good book about this and other Greek penis infatuation pick up "Reign of the Phallus"

[cmdr_zoom.insanejournal.com]

That's Hermes, quick off the mark--
*spurt!*
...
"It's okay, I'll get another fast too."

[aaron_bourque.insanejournal.com]

Isn't he the God of Inspiration?

[darkknightjrk.insanejournal.com]

Well, I must say I'm even more impressed about Hermes--you'd think one couldn't run with a cock that big because you'd keep tripping over it.

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

Its like a compass needle pointing true north. You just keep following it.

[mysteryfan.insanejournal.com]

Hang on. Upcoming Raven and Starfire on Paradise Island? Whoa.

[sun_soraya.insanejournal.com]

There's also a pretty cool story where Starfire participates in a tournament on Paradise Island (I think Raven was sitting with Hippolyte in the loge).

[superfan1.insanejournal.com]

Reall? Wow!

[icon_uk.insanejournal.com]

At least Hyperion has the power to back up the ego, compare and contrast with the Titans "angel" Azrael, who'd spout the most dreadfully overblown drivel when his entire powerset consisted of, basically, wings (And I say that as a diehard fan of Angel and Icarus)

[sun_soraya.insanejournal.com]

And Hyperion doesn't whine that much. It's funny that you mention Azrael, I was thinking of maybe posting the Azrael/Lilith scene some time later, just for his creative lamenting.

[jlbarnett.insanejournal.com]

did Claremont and Perez ever get paired together on any work?

[mainboucher.insanejournal.com]

Survey says: Uncanny X-men Annual #3?

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

Couple of Marvel two in ones.

[jlbarnett.insanejournal.com]

was they a bevy of mind controlled women?

Actually..maybe more like Perez and Micheline?

[steverodgers5.insanejournal.com]

It reminded me more of the whole Ms Marvel mind control/love inducement with that Marcus guy.

You know the one from Avengers 200 which, (Irony upon Ironies,) Claremont later on exposed the horror of it in his Avengers Annual 10..

A lot of Claremont's mind control seems to be from characters who are more straight forwardly evil in that regard..

Whist this Hyperion doesn't seem to be entirly potrayed as the nasty piece of work that he so obviously is..(Much like the initial marcus potrayal in Avengers..)

(PS I adore David Micheline's work on Iron man, and much of his run on Spidey, but I don't know what the heck he was thinking when he wrote that avengers arc...)

Re: Actually..maybe more like Perez and Micheline?

[xdoop.insanejournal.com]

At least Donna is left traumatized by the incident, where Carol was originally portrayed as happy to go off with Marcus.

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[steverodgers5.insanejournal.com]

Good point!

(Although I guess what the writers would argue is that Donna's is more guilt induced if she sees herself as betraying someone. I can't honestly recall if Carol was with anyone back in Avengers, although I don't think she was..)

Re: Actually..maybe more like Perez and Micheline?

[xdoop.insanejournal.com]

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[steverodgers5.insanejournal.com]

Oh, I'd never read this issue in it's entirity. So thanks for this. It's interesting to see the differing aftermaths..

[mullon.insanejournal.com]

Perez, you wonderful pervy bastard.

[cleome45.insanejournal.com]

Lately I've been feeling like I'm a bad person for never finding Terry all that creepy, even though I read all those stories way back when. [shrug] Maybe it's because I didn't think of Donna as a teenager, even though "Teen" is in the comic's title every damn month. Or maybe it's because even though Terry is obviously older than she is, he sure didn't look (to me) old enough to be a parent to a grown woman. That is, he didn't look as old as any real-life parents of teenagers that I knew at the time-- including my own parents. :p

OTOH, that whole thing where Donna is enthralled and touching her own face, etc.? *That* has always struck me as creepy.

Go figure. [shrug]

[fredneil.livejournal.com (from insanejournal.com)]

Enthralled? I thought she was having an orgasm. Which would have been fairly out-there in 1981. Now? She definitely would be having an orgasm. And it would most likely involve body parts other than her face. I never thought I'd miss 1981.

[cleome45.insanejournal.com]

Uh, yeah. That, too. But I was trying to be polite. :D

[freddylloyd.insanejournal.com]

Lately I've been feeling like I'm a bad person for never finding Terry all that creepy, even though I read all those stories way back when.

I, too, read these New Teen Titans stories in the early 1980s, and never thought Terry Long was creepy. Still don't.

The latter-day reaction against him seems to be based on:
* changes in fashion. For those of us who lived through the era of unbuttoned shirts, facial hair, and shorts that were actually short instead of Capri pants for men, Terry's look just isn't that strange.
* to some extent, changes in mores. Recognition of HIV and sexual harassment gave a different edge to the sexual atmosphere pervading the New Teen Titans. Even though the scripts make clear that Donna is a grown woman, isn't Terry's student, isn't young enough to be his daughter, etc., some people still disapprove of the relationship.
* how Terry's character developed later, when he began to act out Marv Wolfman's problems with writer's block and became less refreshing and more annoying.
* the paradox that Wolfman put into the character from the beginning: how someone superpowered like Donna was attracted to an ordinary man.

[dustbunny105.insanejournal.com]

... Did Hyperion blast off Starfire's clothes in that one panel or what?

[foxhack.insanejournal.com]

Rape. It's fine when the gods do it!

Euuuuuuuuuuugh. *pukes* This is disgusting.

[jlroberson.insanejournal.com]

But they usually do it as swans or bulls. (I always wondered what it was about Greek women that being king of the gods wasn't good enough...)

[timemonkey.insanejournal.com]

Because Hera would smite them?

No, I mean ZEUS pretending to be an animal.

[jlroberson.insanejournal.com]

Oh sure, like she didn't know that swan was Zeus.

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[timemonkey.insanejournal.com]

Still, more deniability. Plus Zeus just might be a kinky bastard.

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[jlroberson.insanejournal.com]

"There's Penelope, looking for Zeus among the pigs again."--Larry Gonick.

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[timemonkey.insanejournal.com]

Well, can you think of a more fitting form for him to take?

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[jlroberson.insanejournal.com]

"So I was walking through the field, and along comes this GORGEOUS duck..."
"ZEUS!"

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[timemonkey.insanejournal.com]

And thus did "doing it ducky style" become a short lived phrase.

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[jlroberson.insanejournal.com]

Which gave Howard an opening line with Bev.

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[timemonkey.insanejournal.com]

Thanks for that mental image.

Nyah ha ha

[jlroberson.insanejournal.com]

Read HTD. you'll find more occasions for it. Like the shower scene in Gerber's final run.

Re: Nyah ha ha

[timemonkey.insanejournal.com]

And why would I want more of it?

Re: Nyah ha ha

[jlroberson.insanejournal.com]

I'm just saying, blame Colan, Winslade and, I think, Dave Sim on the magazine. We're not just talking mental images.

Re: Nyah ha ha

[timemonkey.insanejournal.com]

But the images were ina format I'd never see so all I had to worry about were the mental ones.

Re: Nyah ha ha

[jlroberson.insanejournal.com]

And now, that has happened. My work here is done, and my snake is double-parked.

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[timemonkey.insanejournal.com]

And vengence will be mine.

Re: Nyah ha ha

[jlroberson.insanejournal.com]

Bah! You'll never take me alive and I will disturb another day.

Wait, henchman Marco, pull up! WE'RE GOING TO HIT THE--

Re: Nyah ha ha

[timemonkey.insanejournal.com]

In your dreams. There are extremely few things that disturb me and you just used up your material. Feel free to give it your best shot though....assuming you make it out of the crash.

Re: Nyah ha ha

[jlroberson.insanejournal.com]

(recorded voice on your phone)
But you forget there are scans. I shall enjoy the challenge from the grave.

Re: Nyah ha ha

[timemonkey.insanejournal.com]

Problem with scans is I actually have to look at them for it to be effective.

Plus my twisted mind has conjured images far more horrifying than anythign they would be allowed to print.

Re: Nyah ha ha

[ladymirth.insanejournal.com]

I love your icon. I love Jubilee and I MISS THAT CARTOON SO DAMN MUCH!

Re: Nyah ha ha

[timemonkey.insanejournal.com]

Thanks, I miss it too. Fortunately I've got most of it on tape and they're releasing DVDS.

Re: No, I mean ZEUS pretending to be an animal.

[janegray.insanejournal.com]

"Might"? He invented the golden shower!

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[timemonkey.insanejournal.com]

A brilliant man.

[mysteryfan.insanejournal.com]

I skipped all of the middle. Do not make me go back and look. Do you mean the 'fulfilled in ways.."

[madripoor_rose.insanejournal.com]

Wow. Sexist and forget the purple ray, purple prose!

Thanks for posting, never saw this before.

[jlroberson.insanejournal.com]

Say, isn't this the plot of an old Star Trek episode?...

[cmdr_zoom.insanejournal.com]

"Who Mourns for Adonais." The god was Apollo (the real thing, apparently), the mortals Carolyn Palamas and Montgomery Scott.

And I got all that from memory. Should I be proud or ashamed?

[dustbunny105.insanejournal.com]

Apollo doesn't force Pamalas' attraction to him, though, putting him miles ahead of Hyperion here.

[tacobob.insanejournal.com]

Donna has a thing for creepy guys with Ronald McDonald hair.

[aaron_bourque.insanejournal.com]

. . . so she'd date Ronald McDonald?

uuuuuuuuu--BLAURHG

::HEADSPLODE::

[tacobob.insanejournal.com]

Let's see:

1. Is he really old? CHECK!
2. POOFY Hair CHECK!
3. CREEPY? CHECK!

Yep, she'd date him, and have creepy children with him.

[thebigapricot.insanejournal.com]

Oh Terry, she may love you but she'll lever make that face with you.

[bluejaybirdie.insanejournal.com]

So, this whole story is majorly skeevy, but those four panels of Donna creep me the hell out. I can't even look at them!

[sistermagpie.insanejournal.com]

Oh...Donna.

I like the way the narrator's voice in these stories. "She is strong, this Amazon." Constructions like that.

[sistermagpie.insanejournal.com]

And that line of Kory's is kind of hilarious. Dick's the only real man you've men on earth? Really? What exactly does she mean by that?

[aegof.livejournal.com (from insanejournal.com)]

Are these the same Titans that made Devastation and tried to eat the Presence?

[jlbarnett.insanejournal.com]

no, these were the original Titans, minus their father Cronus. The group was another group fathered by Cronus while he was imprisoned I believe.

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

Does anyone know much about the history/who designed this wondergirl costume ??

[colonel_green.insanejournal.com]

The basic look was designed by Nick Cardy in the late Silver Age; Perez made a few minor modifications to it during the revival in the 1980s.

Dear GOD Donna

[lang_ea.insanejournal.com]

"You promised all peace, how can you begin by causing death?"

Donna, you're asking a dude that EATS BABIES. And has sex with his sister. Did I mention he also eats babies?

Re: Dear GOD Donna

[galateus.insanejournal.com]

Hey, that baby-eating was self-defense! LEAVE CRONUS ALONE.

[earthelemental.insanejournal.com]

Face it. If Donna Troy could let the likes of, say, John Constantine see her secret birthmark (re: Swamp Thing #66), then she'll sleep with anyone!

[darkknightjrk.insanejournal.com]

Seriously? Whew--forget about Kyle then. If anyone has a penis of death, it's John Constantine.

[freddylloyd.insanejournal.com]

Doesn't this story have Kory flying with a naked Gar Logan in her arms? I recall writing a letter to New Teen Titans about that, back when I was callow.

[sun_soraya.insanejournal.com]

Hm, when they get off the plane and fly down to Paradise Island Kory does carry Gar, but he's wrapped in some white fabric.
He is pretty much naked though after he turned into that sea monster two issues later in NTT #13 and Kory has to fly him back to the island.

[freddylloyd.insanejournal.com]

Issue #13 must be what I remember. Thanks!

[saralakali.insanejournal.com]

I don't know if anyone else has requested this, but I'd love to see some scans of the ish with Starfire's boyfriend before Dick. I think it's one of only three issues of pre-Crisis NTT I don't have.

[sun_soraya.insanejournal.com]

I can post that, no problem. You are providing me with a cool idea, I was unsure what to go for next. Thanks! :)

[saralakali.insanejournal.com]

Yah, no problem. I could kick myself for not picking that one up when I had the chance. I haven't been able to find it for anything less than exorbitant collector prices since.

[sun_soraya.insanejournal.com]

I posted it here (http://asylums.insanejournal.com/scans_daily/930109.html). :)

Might as well be kissing the sun...

[nefrekeptah.insanejournal.com]

I can totally see why Donna would go for this guy; he's so good, he gives woman orgasms just by looking at them!

A question though - why, exactly, did Hyperion, after thousands of years, just - suddenly break free like that? Did the warranty on his ancient stone prison expire? Did the batteries run out? Did Hyperion just go "fuck this, I'm out"?

Re: Might as well be kissing the sun...

[jfurioso.insanejournal.com]

IIRC Hyperion stole the last remembered glimmers of sunlight from the souls of the condemned passing near his imprisonment, in order to built up his power enough to break free. It took a long time for those to add up enough.