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Jeff: And pretty much the two pinnacle--considered in most comic circles pinnacle pieces of comic fiction have been your Dark Knight Returns, of course, and the Watchmen by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons. And many people compare the two, both the dark visions of superheroes and real world, and I was wondering just to--what are your thoughts on the comparison of Dark Knight to the Watchmen?

Frank Miller: Oh, I think that the two books were bound to be tied up together and compared a lot. For one thing, as it is that--all of us are really good friends. But beyond that, there was something in the air--I mean, something that could be shaken up with all these old superheroes, because they were really getting stale. I mean, for goodness' sakes, Batman was deputized. How wrong is that?

Jeff: Yeah.

Frank Miller: And then, ultimately, the differences between me and Alan as writers shone through. I mean, I like to joke that when it comes to superheroes, Alan Moore provided the autopsy and I provided the brass-band funeral.


Source: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4704766


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The A.V. Club: Is it true that you originally wanted to do crime comics when you started your career, but you were pushed toward superheroes as the only legitimate form of commercial comics?

Frank Miller: Absolutely. Color me stupid, but I came in with a bunch of samples of guys in trenchcoats and old cars and stuff, and they looked at me like I was crazy. I had to learn to draw the muscles.


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Neal Conan: To be both Bruce Wayne and the Batman, does one or both of them have to be crazy?

Frank Miller: Well, my own personal theory is that everybody's crazy, but I would say not really. And as a matter of fact, Batman and Bruce Wayne are both characters who believe in sanity and, you know, in a sane world, but they believe that it only makes sense when you force it to. So there's a touch of the fascist in them, and there's a--he saw all sense ripped out of his life when his parents were murdered in front of his eyes, and he has come back and said, `I'm going to make the world make sense.' That's Batman.


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The A.V. Club: So you actually consciously set out to change things in the comics industry?

Frank Miller: Well, I set out to remark upon them. And seeing how all these heroes had been castrated since the 1950s, and just how pointless they seemed to be... In this perfect world of comic books, which was what it was back then, why would people dress up in tights to fight crime?

The A.V. Club: Because there wasn't anything bad enough going on back then to justify that extremism?

Frank Miller: It was just a bunch of goofy villains. It was 1985 when I started working on this, and I thought, "What kind of world would be scary enough for Batman?" And I looked out my window.


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David Mazzucchelli is probably best-known to this community as the artist on mainstream superhero storylines like Daredevil: Born Again and Batman: Year One. However, after completing the art for those projects, he moved on to indie comics which he wrote as well as illustrated. His Rubber Blanket anthology series and his adaptation (with Paul Karasik) of Paul Auster's City of Glass won some acclaim, but his 2009 magnum opus, the graphic novel Asterios Polyp (Pantheon) created a sensation in the indie/alternative comics world. It earned many enthusiastic reviews, and several awards, for its thought-provoking and moving story, filled with references to classical mythology, as well as its art and layout which played with the form of the comics medium.

7 pages out of 344; NSFW for brief nudity )
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Let the disagreements pour forth, but to this day, Frank Miller's Batman: Year One remains quite possibly the most well-told Batman story I have ever read. I'm tempted to say that it's proof of what Miller alone was capable of at the top of his game, but some sources have it that David Mazzucchelli was holding back all of his excesses, which isn't exactly unbelievable.

Really, Mazzucchelli's art and layouts make half the story, with a beautifully minimalist-yet-gritty aesthetic that can make even the hokiest scenes work (so naturally, the DTV adaptation glossed over all that with its typical wannabe-anime art. Feh). It's a shame that today he's gone into the Too-Good-For-Mainstream-Superheroes-Camp, but if anyone's earned that spot, it's him. I'm also of the opinion that this is one of those comics that absolutely must be read with the shitty, grainy coloring of the late 1980s to get the full effect, but since most of them TPBs today have that high-falutin' shiny digital coloring, this might be a bit hard.

The actual content of the story, I go back and forth on: I love what it did to Gordon's and Alfred's character voices, it's probably the sole reason that pre-scarring Harvey Dent has any traction in the modern era, and the corruption of the GCPD is practically gospel today, but I'm largely apathetic to any take on Catwoman's origin, and I've never sat too well with the third-act revelation of Jim Gordon's adultery. Still, when it's good, it's absolutely kick-ass

Come. Let us gaze on some of its finest moments...



I know comics. I know comics. Sometimes, I share them. With someone like you. )
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Sarah Essen isn't my favorite female character in the Batman mythos, but she is an interesting one. She's a good cop, loves Jim Gordon dearly, but has a problem with the whole "his best friend is a masked vigilante" thing.
Sarah's introduction in BATMAN: YEAR ONE is after the cut.

Think of her as a cop )
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After Frank Miller finished his first run on Daredevil, Denny O'Neill took over the title. I think it's an interesting and underrated run. Particularly I loved the Micah Synn storyline. It may not be great, but at least it respects the time-honoured tradition of showing another hellish Christmas for Matt.

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In the final chapter of BATMAN: YEAR ONE, Commissioner Loeb mentions a reporter/editor at the Gotham Gazette named Agee. Looking at this again, I'm noticing how Frank Miller and David Mazzucchelli gave Loeb a "Sidney Greenstreet" look.



For a long time, I thought Loeb said "McGee," and Miller was making a reference to Jack McGee from "The Incredible Hulk" TV series.
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Greetings True Believers!

I have even more Captain America awesome for you. This time from Daredevil # 233. This issue has so much awesome Steve in it that the mere act of holding it makes you want to recite the Pledge of Allegiance and fight Nazis.

Also, early Frank Miller, before his "whores! whores! whores!" period.

Enjoy!

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First post at the new place, thought I'd do my part.

This is from World's Funnest, and I think I actually got these scans once upon a time from Scans Daily 1.0, but it's well worth reposting!

Enjoy...

Fourth World Shenanigans! )

What more need be said?
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The character Nuke was first introduced during the end of Frank Miller's Daredevil arc "Born Again." Besides a BA-related What If? issue, Nuke didn't make any more appearances for a while.

Then he returned in the beginning of Daniel Way's Wolverine: Origins series, where we discovered his origin.

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Inspired by this post, more Jonah being a badass.



by the way tag-wranglers, looks like we have two jjj tags that should prolly be merged or whatever under the jjj jr. one
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Some of you may know the work of David Mazzucchelli through his late 80s superhero work and some of you may be more familiar with his indy friendly output. It’s a gross overgeneralization but Mazzucchelli’s fan base has always been divided into those two camps (with the occasional gray areas) so I’m sticking to it. The tail end of Batman: Year One and the emergence of Rubber Blanket is about the time that Mazzucchelli redefined himself and, for better or worse, the industry. What’s interesting are the elements that led up to that era and the projects that followed.

Ranging from franchise characters to cover illustrations, this Master Post shows an inkling of Mazzucchelli’s artistic transition and range. This post has also been cross posted over at http://master-post.livejournal.com/4876.html#cutid1 which you're free to "friend" and check in anytime. That link has a bunch more Mazzucchelli art to drool over.

As for the older stuff, don’t judge too harshly…

…you were once young, too. )
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Recently, the issue of Catwoman's origin came up. Specifically, the post-Crisis Y1 retcon that she was a prostitute, inspired by "real man" Batman to dress up like a loony and follow in his footsteps, or something; the subsequent Zero Hour retcon to something much better; and the innumerable other retcons that ignored the Zero Hour retcon in favor of Miller's take, only more XTREEM, adding rape, underaged victimization, etc etc.

And since everything is more clear with scans, I thought I'd post those two different takes, so everybody can see the contrast for themselves.



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